minitrucking02
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So I'm not going to waste anyone's time with a full write up because, I'm sorry, if you don't know how to jack up your car and do a basic brake job and bleed the system, you should not attempt this yourself. This, as far as I can tell, will give you the same Big Brake Kit off the ZZP website.
This swap is a direct bolt on swap- so if you did the Encore swap, I'm sorry, but you will have to helicoil your spindle back to OEM size/pitch.
ZZP kit is $500.
Camaro calipers -$24 each, plus I bought cores from a junkyard for $20 each- $88
Encore Rotors- $22 each- $44
Hawk Pro-street Pads (Camaro) $74
Total was $206, so, you can see the savings on doing it yourself.
That being said, here you go.
1) Go to the junkyard and get calipers off a Camaro for your core charge.
2) Go to a parts store, 02 Camaro SS front calipers and pads (any 98-02 will work, but who admits to having a v6 Camaro), 14 Buick Encore front rotors. I couldn't find zinc rotors. That being said I didn't search because I get parts at cost so this swap cost me roughly $200, and I used Hawks pads that cost me $74.
3) Perform your brake job, DO NOT PUT THE HOSE BACK IN THE STRUT BRACKET. Gravity bleed the calipers to finish them off as the bleeder is not in the same position it is while on a Camaro. While gravity bleeding, pull the caliper back and forth on the sliders, this will help release some of the air.
4) Bed in your pads properly. The Encode rotors are thinner than Camaro so be careful or you will warp them. As you bed them, you will notice around the hub of the rotor where the pads do not contact, again why I recommend Zinc washed rotors. That being said, the full pad does contact the rotor, so no worries there.
Disclaimer: Because of the volume of fluid that needs to be displaced the pedal will have to be pushed further to get a full brake effect (its not tgst much further travel but it is noticable) On that note, because of the larger surface area of the pads and clamping force of the pistons, they grab harder once they are properly applied. Stopping is greatly improved and the diameter of the rotor and vane count increase the cooling effectiveness so you can brake harder longer without fade. USE SEMI METALLIC PADS NOT CERAMIC. Yes, you will be more prone to squeaking and audible braking down the line but you will stop harder, and the clamping force of the Camaro calipers were designed with semi-mets, ceramics are too hard and they may develop cracks/ glaze over if the gasses cannot escape properly. Again, if anyone figures out the proper hose, feel free to post your findings. I may end up using an metal line to extend out so that I can put the hose back in the bracket, but my car is not lowered so I have no issues with the hose possibly rubbing the axles.
BEFORE:
AFTER:
It fills the wheel so well. Please do not ask me what wheels it works with, I do not know. Again, as far as I can tell, this is the ZZP Big Brake Kit, but I could not figure a proper hose, but the factory hose works. Any suggestions please feel free to post an application or part number.
This swap is a direct bolt on swap- so if you did the Encore swap, I'm sorry, but you will have to helicoil your spindle back to OEM size/pitch.
ZZP kit is $500.
Camaro calipers -$24 each, plus I bought cores from a junkyard for $20 each- $88
Encore Rotors- $22 each- $44
Hawk Pro-street Pads (Camaro) $74
Total was $206, so, you can see the savings on doing it yourself.
That being said, here you go.
1) Go to the junkyard and get calipers off a Camaro for your core charge.
2) Go to a parts store, 02 Camaro SS front calipers and pads (any 98-02 will work, but who admits to having a v6 Camaro), 14 Buick Encore front rotors. I couldn't find zinc rotors. That being said I didn't search because I get parts at cost so this swap cost me roughly $200, and I used Hawks pads that cost me $74.
3) Perform your brake job, DO NOT PUT THE HOSE BACK IN THE STRUT BRACKET. Gravity bleed the calipers to finish them off as the bleeder is not in the same position it is while on a Camaro. While gravity bleeding, pull the caliper back and forth on the sliders, this will help release some of the air.
4) Bed in your pads properly. The Encode rotors are thinner than Camaro so be careful or you will warp them. As you bed them, you will notice around the hub of the rotor where the pads do not contact, again why I recommend Zinc washed rotors. That being said, the full pad does contact the rotor, so no worries there.
Disclaimer: Because of the volume of fluid that needs to be displaced the pedal will have to be pushed further to get a full brake effect (its not tgst much further travel but it is noticable) On that note, because of the larger surface area of the pads and clamping force of the pistons, they grab harder once they are properly applied. Stopping is greatly improved and the diameter of the rotor and vane count increase the cooling effectiveness so you can brake harder longer without fade. USE SEMI METALLIC PADS NOT CERAMIC. Yes, you will be more prone to squeaking and audible braking down the line but you will stop harder, and the clamping force of the Camaro calipers were designed with semi-mets, ceramics are too hard and they may develop cracks/ glaze over if the gasses cannot escape properly. Again, if anyone figures out the proper hose, feel free to post your findings. I may end up using an metal line to extend out so that I can put the hose back in the bracket, but my car is not lowered so I have no issues with the hose possibly rubbing the axles.
BEFORE:
AFTER:
It fills the wheel so well. Please do not ask me what wheels it works with, I do not know. Again, as far as I can tell, this is the ZZP Big Brake Kit, but I could not figure a proper hose, but the factory hose works. Any suggestions please feel free to post an application or part number.
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