pedders coilovers question

[klystron]

So I got a call saying my car was done and the coilovers were in. However, he said that the rears were not coilovers and were just a standard shock with a spring. Is this right? I thought the purpose of coilovers is to put the spring over the strut or shock. Could he have put them in wrong? I'm picking the car up tomorrow and need an explanation. Thanks.

 

[ThatTmoGuy]

in the rear they are separate.

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[klystron]

in the rear they are separate.

the Derploader

Thanks for the pic. I forgot to look at Preloader's thread lol. Stupid me. It has like 73 pages and I'm supposed to be working.

I don't know why they call them "coilovers" if they aren't, though. I guess the term "coilover" can be used to indicate something with a lot of adjustment.

 

[ThatTmoGuy]

There just isn't enough room between the "frame rails" and the shock tower to put a coil over in the rear.

 

[TurboTechRacing]

There just isn't enough room between the "frame rails" and the shock tower to put a coil over in the rear.

This...

 

[firstorbit84]

Wouldn't you also need independent rear suspension for a true rear coilover to be possible?

Are the rears height adjustable?

 

[ThatTmoGuy]

You would need a double wishbone type rear suspension.

Yes.

 

[klystron]

Wouldn't you also need independent rear suspension for a true rear coilover to be possible?

Are the rears height adjustable?

You adjust the height by changing the height of the shock. This will of course cause the spring to compress or collapse. If you adjust the height too far out of bounds the spring rate will be off.

I know some stuff... just not a lot of stuff! I depend on you all to teach me everything about suspensions so don't let me down.

 

[ThatTmoGuy]

I would look up justice pete here on SOF he has all the goods

 

[sx sonic]

^^^this. From what I hear JusticePete is the man, god, and guru of suspension

 

[Preloader]

You adjust the height by changing the height of the shock. This will of course cause the spring to compress or collapse. If you adjust the height too far out of bounds the spring rate will be off.

I know some stuff... just not a lot of stuff! I depend on you all to teach me everything about suspensions so don't let me down.

The front coilover adjusts height without effecting spring rate. The spring rate is locked in once it's set.

The rear height is adjusted by raising and lowering the body in relation to the springs, and also does not effect the spring rate.

The rear pedders shocks allow you to adjust the working range lower to match the amount you lower the body.

 

[theenico]

The GM B-Spec suspension kit has true coilovers for the rear.

http://www.sonicownersforum.com/forum/t5348/

 

[ThatTmoGuy]

notice the coils are mounted on the bottom of the shock body allowing it to have a true coilover.

 

[sonic24740]

just got the pedders coilovers today.. DO i need an additional parts to get the alignment correct for the front camber??

 

[Eric Smit]

just got the pedders coilovers today.. DO i need an additional parts to get the alignment correct for the front camber??

what's your definition of correct?

no.

 

[sonic24740]

what's your definition of correct?

no.

I just don't want to be eating up tires...

 

[Eric Smit]

I just don't want to be eating up tires...

then no.

 

[sonic24740]

then no.

sweet thanks for the info..

 

[Eric Smit]

no problem.

 

[klystron]

The guy who put mine in did such a good job I went to have the alignment checked and it was dead on lol. The toe was off but the car came that way so it was adjusted. I love the COs. You will, too. The Sonic is a surprisingly solid and well built car. It really stiffens up and drives great. It's like a little go-kart. Compared to my old GTO it's just point-and-shoot.