Kuntryboy865
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Is there any explanation to why the retune shifts automatically in manual mode? I dont like that. It kind of defeats the purpose of manual mode.
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Manual mode?
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Kuntryboy865
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So apparently GM coded it to shift automatically which sucks but trifecta made it more aggressive in manual mode vs drive.
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KlassKlown
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I talked to WOT because I noticed the same in my auto, I like being able to control it in Manual so they let me know that we can get it back to what GM had it as which was manual. Before re-tune it didn't shift automatically. D what other users don't do and let WOT know since it's the feedback that lets them know some of us don't like it.
Blue Moon Sonic
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Personally speaking. I would like it better if there was a way to use manual mode to work like drive but use it as a feature to lock out the gears that way there is no risk of the car trying to up shift while building boost in the gear you are trying to spool into. Would also make engine braking a lot more effective. Though it's probably not possible with a tune to do that and would probably have to get a transmission controller installed with a high stall torque converter.
Kuntryboy865
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Yeah you can get it back if you go back to the old tune but I talked to them yesterday and they said the new retune you can't get it back because its part of GM's new update and its hard coded in. Because I asked them if I could have it like the old way and keep the new tune, they said no.
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KlassKlown
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yeah most recent calibration forces the M mode on Auto's to automatically shift. Personally the trade off isn't that great since I'm used to taking control on M and if they aren't able to remove it then I'm flashing back to previous tune
After reading the posts went out and drove my Sonic for a couple miles...you guys are absolutely right my car now shifts automatically in Manual mode.
I actually kind of like the aggressive shift pattern...however it defeats the purpose of the transparent mode. It's pretty easy for a GM service center to notice our cars have been altered when the car shifts automatically in manual mode.
I'm like most here I use manual for braking and engine speed control. The new tune although a bit more aggressive is not worth losing the ability to shift our transmissions in the manual mode. If this feature can't be removed from the Advantage tune, I will go back to the Econo tune.
I actually kind of like the aggressive shift pattern...however it defeats the purpose of the transparent mode. It's pretty easy for a GM service center to notice our cars have been altered when the car shifts automatically in manual mode.
I'm like most here I use manual for braking and engine speed control. The new tune although a bit more aggressive is not worth losing the ability to shift our transmissions in the manual mode. If this feature can't be removed from the Advantage tune, I will go back to the Econo tune.
rodslinger
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Just take it out of manual mode to shift automatically. In manual mode it should NOT upshift automatically. That is a screw up in the code, not an added feature.
Turn in a ticket and see if they can adjust the shiftpoints for you. Maybe up to redline but shift rightbefore if redlines. They won't give you back M mode. But the adjustment helps. Also, if my car isnt warmed up. I think it shifts early. This is like a safety feature to protect your engine from you...
14SonicLTZ
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According to Wot-Tuning; I was told that there is a revision to the Trifecta tune that will allow a True Manual mode... Now it will automatically shift for you if you do not shift before redline. But the tune comes stock with a more aggressive version of the Drive mode...
rodslinger
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I've seen them roll out the correction on other models so hopefully it gets here soon. I know Trifecta and WOT see these posts so here is a useful bit for your next update....
I understand why there is an automatic upshift in manual mode but the implementation is wrong. You have two goals to accomplish here.
1- Allow full manual control and only allow an upshift when called for.
2 - Protect the engine by not allowing someone to drive around all day in 2nd or 3rd gear with the engine parked at 6k rpms....
Simple fix.... Force the upshift only after you are revving at or above X RPM's for more than Y seconds with load above Z%. Figure a safe number that doesn't screw up someone's momentum on the Auto-X course or trying to hold a low gear for speed control down a hill which would be throttle off. I'm willing to bet that code is already in the stock system. You just have to set it up properly.
