Rumor: Chevy Sonic SS in the Works??

[CoHPhasor]

Stupid Question-What's an SS?

Please, allow me...

When people talk SS, this is where it begins;

It is an upgrade to whateber base model it is offered for - think of the cool stuff you'd like in your muscle car;
- upgraded suspension
- sport seats
- good body accents, spoiler, lip, etc
- enough horsepower to light a match from across a football field and get your girlfriend pregnant while you're in different zipcodes.

Basically, the sweetest thing you can snag.

 

[theenico]

Just to set the record straight, there are 3.5 variations of the Alpha platform.

Alpha Mini - This is the one that the 130R was on (the concept was just a mockup that doesn't even roll though BTW). If it makes through it all the BS at GM, it is currently designated to have the 1.4T (of course this can change at any time). This platform was shelved when Pontiac and Saturn were killed as it was supposed to be the replacement for the Kappa platform and be the second gen Solstice and Sky.

Alpha - Cadillac ATS (The V will be a TTV6)

Alpha Special - Next Gen Camaro (It can has V8s)

Alpha Long - Cadillac CTS (It too can has V8s)

 

[RS Turbo]

Just to set the record straight, there are 3.5 variations of the Alpha platform.

Alpha Mini - This is the one that the 130R was on (the concept was just a mockup that doesn't even roll though BTW). If it makes through it all the BS at GM, it is currently designated to have the 1.4T (of course this can change at any time). This platform was shelved when Pontiac and Saturn were killed as it was supposed to be the replacement for the Kappa platform and be the second gen Solstice and Sky.

Alpha - Cadillac ATS (The V will be a TTV6)

Alpha Special - Next Gen Camaro (It can has V8s)

Alpha Long - Cadillac CTS (It too can has V8s)

Thanks for the Great info!!

 

[laborsmith]

Excellent summary, theenico.

W/o a tape measure while at the auto show I had to resort to walking back and forth between the ATS and the 130R (and the 140S) and I thought the two had the same wheelbase, even tho the 130R body did look visually smaller.

Laborsmith

 

[Screamer4]

I got to thinking the other day... imagine the 130R, but instead of a notch-back coupe with a trunk, think of how it would look with a nicely sculpted and slightly elongated rear hatch area. It could be the rebirth of the Nomad

The extra cargo space of a mini-wagon would make it infinitely more appealing to me. And the idea of a fun, RWD mini-wagon/hot hatch makes me giddy. Chevy already has 2 fun RWD sports coupes... how about something a bit different?

 

[theenico]

I got to thinking the other day... imagine the 130R, but instead of a notch-back coupe with a trunk, think of how it would look with a nicely sculpted and slightly elongated rear hatch area. It could be the rebirth of the Nomad

...or the Vega 2 door wagon from the 70s

 

[jennie421]

Thanks CoPhaser. I don't think I need an SS. But I hope you all get one!

Hoping the LT is everything I want and it can count as my SS. I may call it Super Sonic and that is SS.

 

[Mikebfbsdy]

http://www.sonicownersforum.com/forum/t3825/

It's not a matter of "if." Just "when."

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I think we will probably see this for the 2015 model year..along with a refresh in the entire car.

 

[jpierro79]

i think the RS is already getting the semi ind. rear supention. i found this "RS spec Sonics receive MacPherson strut front suspension, coil springs, a stabilizer bar as well as a semi-independent rear suspension"

Interesting though the cruze is a semi independent rear. Just did an alignment on one the other day. I cant see the same set up in the sonic with the way the rear is built. Then again I dont design them. Either way by the time the ss comes out my car will have more power and better equipment. So for all those who are about to get mad, Just make your own sonic. There are people at pretty much 200 hp and 240 ft lbs now. Imagine by the time the ss comes out. With technology of today displacement doenst mean as much as it used to. If chevy is going to go all out just make a 4wd turbo with the 1.8 or something of that nature. I hate to say this but I cant begin to say how many times GM starts something of this nature and scraps it. Ill believe it when I see it.

 

[theenico]

The regular Sonics and the RS both have the same semi-trailing arm twist beam rear suspension. Neither have rear anti-sway bars, and if there's an SS in the works, rest assured it will use exactly the same basic setup with revised spring rates and shock valving being the only differences.

Please everyone, stop comparing the Sonic to the Cruze. The only thing they share is front brakes, engines, and wheel bolt patterns. Otherwise, they are totally different platforms.

 

[Diller]

Unforetunately I dont think GM will do this. I would love to see the same thing for sure. There was supposed to be a release for a malibu with the 2.0t engine for 2013 and that was scratched also.


GM WILL be producing the 2.0t for the '13 Malibu. More info/training will be available on Sept 24th via webcast.


Diller
'99 Regal GS
'08 Hummer H3

 

[Johnny Alien]

Please everyone, stop comparing the Sonic to the Cruze. The only thing they share is front brakes, engines, and wheel bolt patterns. Otherwise, they are totally different platforms.

The steering wheels are the same.

 

[sonic hotness]

They might be checking out how good the rs does then release the ss

 

[laborsmith]

They might be checking out how good the rs does then release the ss

That and how the Fiesta ST does. My guess is the decision has been made and there will be a 1.6t Sonic RS in the future but not before the end of 2014. Whether Chevy will put the SS emblem on it is even more speculative.

Laborsmith

 

[SSpeckerwood]

The regular Sonics and the RS both have the same semi-trailing arm twist beam rear suspension. Neither have rear anti-sway bars, and if there's an SS in the works, rest assured it will use exactly the same basic setup with revised spring rates and shock valving being the only differences.

Please everyone, stop comparing the Sonic to the Cruze. The only thing they share is front brakes, engines, and wheel bolt patterns. Otherwise, they are totally different platforms.

So what your trying to say is the cruze and the sonic are different...... I figured that out with the subtle difference in names.

 

[laborsmith]

I suspect he is trying to remind those who have not figured it out. Why do I think that? Because of postings that indicate some have not figured it out.

And this is GM we are talking about. Name differences have not always meant anything different than the badge with the name. (Overstating but you get my point.)

Laborsmith

 

[jpierro79]

Unforetunately I dont think GM will do this. I would love to see the same thing for sure. There was supposed to be a release for a malibu with the 2.0t engine for 2013 and that was scratched also.


GM WILL be producing the 2.0t for the '13 Malibu. More info/training will be available on Sept 24th via webcast.


Diller
'99 Regal GS
'08 Hummer H3

Could you verify this for me please. I would appreciate that a lot.

 

[laborsmith]

http://www.insideline.com/chevrolet...o-coming-late-fall-for-27710.html#add-comment

Just the Facts:

Get a 259-horsepower turbocharged 2013 Malibu sedan late this year for less than $28K.
All 2013 Malibus go from eight standard airbags to 10.
Also available for 2013 Malibus are a lane-departure warning system and rearview camera.


GRAND RAPIDS, Michigan — Chevrolet officials on hand for media drives of the new-generation 2013 Malibu midsize sedan say the turbocharged Malibu LT and LTZ will go into production "in a couple of months," meaning the car will be in showrooms sometime in the last quarter of the year.

The 259-horsepower turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder will be available for the LT and LTZ trim levels of the 2013 Malibu lineup, which started sales earlier this year as a 2012 model solely in the mild-hybrid Eco variant. The lowest-cost buy-in for the Malibu turbo is an LT (with required 3LT trim) at $27,710, a price that includes the $760 destination rap. A top-trim Malibu LTZ turbo goes for $30,925 that includes destination.

The Malibu's turbo 2.0-liter joins the Malibu Eco's 2.4-liter and a conventional 2.5-liter four-cylinder (197 horsepower/191 pound-feet of torque) to form a three-powertrain lineup for the 2013 model year. Premium fuel is recommended, but not required for the turbo.

The expanding-for-2013 Malibu lineup also will include 10 standard airbags, up from the eight standard bags found in the 2012 Malibu Eco. For driver and passenger there are frontal airbags, knee bags and side-impact bags. Rear outboard passengers get pelvis/thorax side-impact bags and there are new roof-rail airbags on each side. Not enough baggage? Head/thorax side airbags for the 2013 Malibu's backseats are optional.

The 2013 Malibu's full-boat LTZ trim includes leather seats, heated front seats, remote start and 18-inch wheels. A premium package for the LTZ brings more: passive keyless entry with push-button start, high-intensity discharge headlights, memory for the driver seat and mirrors and 19-inchers at all four corners.

Inside Line says: 259 horses for 28 grand doesn't sound so bad — but dare we say "sport sedan" in the same breath as "Malibu?" We'll soon see.

 

[Eric Smit]

I will never say sport sedan when talking about the Malibu, but the new ones are a vast improvement over the old ones.


-Eric Smit

 

[Screamer4]

I recall reading that Chevy is trying to be much more restrained about throwing SS badges on cars.