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GeneralZod
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Hahaha. I just wanted to take it slow this time.
It turns out the slave CM sent me failed because it was wrong and only had half the travel.
I bench tested both clutches and found the travel to be typical.
I then replaced my burnt out stock slave with a new one and carefully bled the system.
Just waiting for the shop to clear an exit path and I'll test her out, but I can already tell now that the previous slave was blown before I even started the car last time.
I'll explain it later (I'm sure theenico especially) as I'm sure ppl are dying to know why.
I just want to feel confident it's solved before I admit how stupid the culprit was for the last failure.
It turns out the slave CM sent me failed because it was wrong and only had half the travel.
I bench tested both clutches and found the travel to be typical.
I then replaced my burnt out stock slave with a new one and carefully bled the system.
Just waiting for the shop to clear an exit path and I'll test her out, but I can already tell now that the previous slave was blown before I even started the car last time.
I'll explain it later (I'm sure theenico especially) as I'm sure ppl are dying to know why.
I just want to feel confident it's solved before I admit how stupid the culprit was for the last failure.
GeneralZod
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I find it hard to fault you even if it was you. So many of the part are different it is crazy.
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Ultimately, the last failure was hydraulic related.
When I removed the burnt slave that CM gave me (wrong stoke BTW), the small rubber top hat stayed inside the Plastic Tee fitting that couples the rubber line to the hard line of the slave.
When I installed my stock OEM slave, it had it's own rubber seal and that stacked up on top of the lodged one from the CM slave. They essentially created their own little check valve. When I pumped up the slave and released the pedal, the master was pulling air into the system, then the next pump would extend the slave a bit, then draw in more air.
It's hard to visualize this without having as much facetime with these parts as I have. Needless to say, the slave failed within the first five pumps, even before I started the car. It still performed OK but the seal was breached.
So, I installed the new correct slave, and very meticulously bled the system, and so far it is operating as it should.
BOTTOM LINE: CM's fly, clutch (2nd one) and pressure plate were fine, however if they had sent me the correct slave, the 2nd install would have been the end.
I'm gonna take the fault for doubling up that little seal the 3rd time, but there wouldn't have been a third time if the slave was right.
tl;dr-fixed my stage 4 clutch issues.
When I removed the burnt slave that CM gave me (wrong stoke BTW), the small rubber top hat stayed inside the Plastic Tee fitting that couples the rubber line to the hard line of the slave.
When I installed my stock OEM slave, it had it's own rubber seal and that stacked up on top of the lodged one from the CM slave. They essentially created their own little check valve. When I pumped up the slave and released the pedal, the master was pulling air into the system, then the next pump would extend the slave a bit, then draw in more air.
It's hard to visualize this without having as much facetime with these parts as I have. Needless to say, the slave failed within the first five pumps, even before I started the car. It still performed OK but the seal was breached.
So, I installed the new correct slave, and very meticulously bled the system, and so far it is operating as it should.
BOTTOM LINE: CM's fly, clutch (2nd one) and pressure plate were fine, however if they had sent me the correct slave, the 2nd install would have been the end.
I'm gonna take the fault for doubling up that little seal the 3rd time, but there wouldn't have been a third time if the slave was right.
tl;dr-fixed my stage 4 clutch issues.
GeneralZod
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Wait, so all the differences were accounted by CM, but they gave you the wrong slave?
We need a wtf icon...
We need a wtf icon...
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Simple..... Yes. Stupid.... Incredibly.
Of the 3 failures, 2 were at the fault of CM, 1 was my own.
I learned soooooo much about the entire system though.
Important notes:
1) a properly bled and functioning hydraulic system dictates the slave travel range.
2) always test the function of replacement parts even when they look identical
3) slooooooow down.
My 1.5 hour R&R ended up costing me 6 hrs in the long run.opcorn:
Of the 3 failures, 2 were at the fault of CM, 1 was my own.
I learned soooooo much about the entire system though.
Important notes:
1) a properly bled and functioning hydraulic system dictates the slave travel range.
2) always test the function of replacement parts even when they look identical
3) slooooooow down.
My 1.5 hour R&R ended up costing me 6 hrs in the long run.
opcorn:GeneralZod
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Simple..... Yes. Stupid.... Incredibly.
Of the 3 failures, 2 were at the fault of CM, 1 was my own.
I learned soooooo much about the entire system though.
Important notes:
1) a properly bled and functioning hydraulic system dictates the slave travel range.
2) always test the function of replacement parts even when they look identical
3) slooooooow down.
My 1.5 hour R&R ended up costing me 6 hrs in the long run.
Don't take any blame as any shop would have done the same. You get parts, you install parts. I am sure visually they look identical. Then doing this over and over, it is acceptable to feel rushed. You also wanted to lay down some stripes.
Hope this issue is now over.
ThatTmoGuy
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Fingers crossed that the next update is a pic of black lines...
