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TrippinGearz
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No wrx?
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Tune and the DDM rear brace or ZZP "sway bar" should have you set for under $600. The difference in feel is well...... noticeable.
Fun fact I got on the Veloster forum for sh!ts and gigs and it looks like even tuned they're running similar qtr miles times as us if not a tick faster than out LTs.
Also amusing is they're pulling off their BPV return line (not intregal like ours) and placing a small filter on it to get BOV noises and "gain power" lmfao. I wish I was at my computer so I could quote some things on this mod. But yeah sounds like they've got things figured out
On a serious note, ok the above was true but I was poking fun in jest, the veloster is intriguing. It's got nice seats, almost as good control layout, a peculiar/sporty look, and decently impressive stats. Everything else is ehh, of course I'm also one that would take awesome controls and raceing seat over a 50" navigation/mylink setup, Bluetooth, and butt massagers. But in motion it just doesn't seem impressive at all, not that the Sonics great stock but it shows good promise if pushed to the limits. Alil money fixes the "everyman" engineering that cripples this car, ie too soft suspension, lower power, and "i don't want to know I'm accelerating" power delivery (blame your fellow motorist for that! GM listened to them).
But honestly I've driven alot of cars, some of which cost over $100k and while there may be a number of others I'd like to have in the stable the Sonic is the most fun, practical car I've ever driven and in my case it cost less than $18k to make it so including the most beneficial mods (cost alil more if you include all the mods but hey, who's counting?
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Fun fact I got on the Veloster forum for sh!ts and gigs and it looks like even tuned they're running similar qtr miles times as us if not a tick faster than out LTs.
Also amusing is they're pulling off their BPV return line (not intregal like ours) and placing a small filter on it to get BOV noises and "gain power" lmfao. I wish I was at my computer so I could quote some things on this mod. But yeah sounds like they've got things figured out
On a serious note, ok the above was true but I was poking fun in jest, the veloster is intriguing. It's got nice seats, almost as good control layout, a peculiar/sporty look, and decently impressive stats. Everything else is ehh, of course I'm also one that would take awesome controls and raceing seat over a 50" navigation/mylink setup, Bluetooth, and butt massagers. But in motion it just doesn't seem impressive at all, not that the Sonics great stock but it shows good promise if pushed to the limits. Alil money fixes the "everyman" engineering that cripples this car, ie too soft suspension, lower power, and "i don't want to know I'm accelerating" power delivery (blame your fellow motorist for that! GM listened to them).
But honestly I've driven alot of cars, some of which cost over $100k and while there may be a number of others I'd like to have in the stable the Sonic is the most fun, practical car I've ever driven and in my case it cost less than $18k to make it so including the most beneficial mods (cost alil more if you include all the mods but hey, who's counting?
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ecohauler
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The Veloster Turbo was a close second for me, honestly. There were none locally with manual transmissions for me to test drive, and that might be the only thing that landed me in the Sonic. I test drove a non-turbo 6MT Veloster, and I did like everything except the engine. I like the feeling of being in the seat rather than on it. It feels more like a sports car than the Sonic does. One thing that drove me crazy about the cabin though was the placement of the start button. It's way too accessible for the front passenger if you have kids or immature friends (I have the latter). I wouldn't be ashamed of you at all for switching, but it's definitely worth the ~$200 to try a tune and a rear brace or sway bar to see if that 'fixes' your Sonic enough. The TTR transmission mount is also well worth the investment and helps everything.
I blame the fact that this is my first turbo car for me simultaneously loving the way mine accelerates and wanting more power from it. I've still got a few dozen more horsepower to draw out of it, though, and the combination of performance and fuel economy is unreal.
I blame the fact that this is my first turbo car for me simultaneously loving the way mine accelerates and wanting more power from it. I've still got a few dozen more horsepower to draw out of it, though, and the combination of performance and fuel economy is unreal.
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Swordsmith
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Look at the math again. You can get what, maybe 10K in trade for the Sonic if you're lucky, and everything you're looking at is going to run somewhere over 20K, so you're spending at least 10K to move up. Even if I'm wrong, cut that in half somehow and it's 5K.
Now ask yourself what could you do to the Sonic for 5K? Intake, tune, exhaust, flexfuel conversion, that's under 2K. Leaves you 3K to play around with the suspension, maybe get someone to slip you RS steering programming, think about a turbo swap... and there's still money on the table.
But all of that is really nonsense, because for under $300 you can get a tune that's going to be the biggest single bang for the buck improvement of the whole lot, and you can pocket the other $9700!
Find someone with a tuned Sonic, even if you have to spend a couple hundred bucks on a road trip to get to them plus buy them dinner, you're still looking at significant savings.
That said, I agree that what you really want is a car you really want. For me, that's the Sonic, and I have a lot of fun "improving" it, which I wouldn't have had if I'd bought something already hot out of the box. Yeah, I have a $22K Sonic, when you figure in all the mods, but when I have a certain sense of pride in the car, it isn't because of what I spent, but because I did did some of the work in making it so. If what makes you happy is the Veloster, that could be worth the price.
If though what you're thinking is that changing cars from something you like that would be better with some work to something you like less but that doesn't need any work to perform the way you like, well, no, that's probably not the way to go.
Now ask yourself what could you do to the Sonic for 5K? Intake, tune, exhaust, flexfuel conversion, that's under 2K. Leaves you 3K to play around with the suspension, maybe get someone to slip you RS steering programming, think about a turbo swap... and there's still money on the table.
But all of that is really nonsense, because for under $300 you can get a tune that's going to be the biggest single bang for the buck improvement of the whole lot, and you can pocket the other $9700!
Find someone with a tuned Sonic, even if you have to spend a couple hundred bucks on a road trip to get to them plus buy them dinner, you're still looking at significant savings.
That said, I agree that what you really want is a car you really want. For me, that's the Sonic, and I have a lot of fun "improving" it, which I wouldn't have had if I'd bought something already hot out of the box. Yeah, I have a $22K Sonic, when you figure in all the mods, but when I have a certain sense of pride in the car, it isn't because of what I spent, but because I did did some of the work in making it so. If what makes you happy is the Veloster, that could be worth the price.
If though what you're thinking is that changing cars from something you like that would be better with some work to something you like less but that doesn't need any work to perform the way you like, well, no, that's probably not the way to go.
JamesMay
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Thanks guys. A lot of options I have to weight right now.
I may have to take you up on this and sadly the Dacia Sandero is not available in the U.S.
I may have to take you up on this and sadly the Dacia Sandero is not available in the U.S.
laborsmith
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And you can order a Corvette in Velocity Yellow while there is no shade of yellow available for the Sonic.
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ss2000slp
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Thanks guys. A lot of options I have to weight right now.
I may have to take you up on this and sadly the Dacia Sandero is not available in the U.S.
Offer is open. At least take it for a drive before you make any decisions.
JamesMay
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Maybe we can do something this Sunday if your free.
