oil light failed to illuminate...blown engine!

[medguy29]

I hope this works out for the best, but its a sad day when a driver doesn't smell or see any oil when 4+ quarts are coming out of the engine and she still drives the car around. It seems to be everyone else's fault according to you (dealership, car etc) It's Wal-Mart's fault first, your daughters second. I hope Wal-Mart pays for the engine and that she learns saving $15 on an oil change is not worth it. Also open the hood with her and show her how and why to check the fluids. My local GM dealer charges $30 for an oil change and they'll also do a tire rotation and reset any oil life monitor if need be.

 

[m3t4lm4n222]

Things like this is why I HATE other people changing my oil and pretty much avoid going to any "Quick Lube" stores or Wal-Mart for example.

If I am going to get my oil changed on a vehicle by someone else, I want it to be a reputable shop that does other vehicle work or a dealership. That way, you know the person changing your oil isn't someone with very limited knowledge of cars, but rather someone with a lot of experience.

 

[ChrisJ]

Things like this is why I HATE other people changing my oil and pretty much avoid going to any "Quick Lube" stores or Wal-Mart for example.

If I am going to get my oil changed on a vehicle by someone else, I want it to be a reputable shop that does other vehicle work or a dealership. That way, you know the person changing your oil isn't someone with very limited knowledge of cars, but rather someone with a lot of experience.

You need almost no knowledge at all about cars to change oil.
What you don't want is someone making minimum wage and completely doesn't give a crap.

 

[Chuck Schick]

You need almost no knowledge at all about cars to change oil.
What you don't want is someone making minimum wage and completely doesn't give a crap.

I worked for minimum wage years ago...and I gave a crap. I know plumbers that make $45 an hour, and they couldn't give a crap.

Who knows what or why it happened???

 

[hammrdwn510]

I worked for minimum wage years ago...and I gave a crap. I know plumbers that make $45 an hour, and they couldn't give a crap.

Who knows what or why it happened???

True story ^^^

Minimum wage was around $5-6 bucks when I started working and I gave a crap. May not have known every thing there was to know, but if I didn't know if ask.

There's highly paid "highly trained" union workers I work along with making $TEXAS$ that know better but still care less/no pride in their work/workmanship. The common phrase is "looks good from my house" .......

In all, just cause you make $x.xx doesn't mean chit.

 

[SouthFLSonic]

The common phrase is "looks good from my house" .......

In all, just cause you make $x.xx doesn't mean chit.

Working in the wood working industry I always heard "good enough for who it's for" or "close counts", I wouldn't let those guys even fill my tires with air because 34 lbs turns into 28 because close enough.....

 

[ChrisJ]

How the hell did that go the way it did?


Someone getting paid a decent amount to do a job they like WILL ALWAYS do a better than some teenager making minimum wage especially if they own the shop! Walmart does not hire skilled people because skilled people won't work for what Walmart pays.

I don't give a rat's a%% about losers who don't take pride in their work but get paid decent. That's another story.
If you want to union bash go somewhere else. I was in the carpenters union and worked with some awesome people who busted their hump every day and worked hard for the money they earned. I worked with a company for over a year that did nothing but trim work and "looks good from my house" or "close enough" never, ever would have cut it.


Basically what I got out of the comments above is "Don't ever take anything anywhere and do everything your self".
Well, lucky for me that's how I roll but most don't.

 

[Chuck Schick]

No No No that is not where I was going....wage does not tell the whole story, that is what I meant.

The folks that work Wal Mart in my area are good guys and gals. There is not one, single thing to blame here.

 

[m3t4lm4n222]

You need almost no knowledge at all about cars to change oil.
What you don't want is someone making minimum wage and completely doesn't give a crap.

Well obviously, but who do you think these quick lube shops hire? People for minimum wage.

My point is, a reputable shop that does other works, means that you're generally going to get a full blown mechanic that changes your oil.

 

[medguy29]

You can't pay someone enough to truly care, they are either there to just get paid or they actually give a **** about what they are doing. Doesn't matter how much the compensation is. The unions that I've been involved in just give the workers that don't care about the product another form of protection from getting fired compared to at will employment and also creates an avenue for drama in the form of grievances, stewards and other things that make them feel like they are important. Anyway this is way off topic now.

 

[mitdr774]

Not sure what union or shops you worked for, but where I am those that dont care tend to not spend too much time employed. We dont fire many people, but I have come across a lot of one man "reduction in work force" lay offs over the past few years. Honestly, the only union I have watched protect people that shouldnt have the job they have has been the UAW so far. The trades seem to do a decent job of keeping the ****ty guys unemployed most of the time. It does seem easier for the trades to do a lay off as opposed to a fire to get rid of a turd than it is for the UAW though.

 

[The Champ]

Someone getting paid a decent amount to do a job they like WILL ALWAYS do a better than some teenager making minimum wage especially if they own the shop! Walmart does not hire skilled people because skilled people won't work for what Walmart pays.

Thanks for insulting my daughter who worked her way through college by working at WalMart.

My daughter had been working for a locally owned grocery store prior to interviewing and being hired by the soon to be opened WalMart store (this is about 20 years ago).

She was offered starting pay that was $1.50 more than what she was making - and she had worked for the other place for 2 years and the only raises she ever got were because the minimum wage went up.

That's right - she went to work for WalMart because of higher pay and better working conditions.

Pride in their work is more about the individual than where or how much a person makes.

I'm not going to bash union members in total - but I grew up in a strong union area - and am well aware that not all union members are hard working or care about how they do their job.

 

[ChrisJ]

Not sure what union or shops you worked for, but where I am those that dont care tend to not spend too much time employed. We dont fire many people, but I have come across a lot of one man "reduction in work force" lay offs over the past few years. Honestly, the only union I have watched protect people that shouldnt have the job they have has been the UAW so far. The trades seem to do a decent job of keeping the ****ty guys unemployed most of the time. It does seem easier for the trades to do a lay off as opposed to a fire to get rid of a turd than it is for the UAW though.

That was exactly what I observed in the carpenters union as well.

 

[ChrisJ]

Thanks for insulting my daughter who worked her way through college by working at WalMart.

My daughter had been working for a locally owned grocery store prior to interviewing and being hired by the soon to be opened WalMart store (this is about 20 years ago).

She was offered starting pay that was $1.50 more than what she was making - and she had worked for the other place for 2 years and the only raises she ever got were because the minimum wage went up.

That's right - she went to work for WalMart because of higher pay and better working conditions.

Pride in their work is more about the individual than where or how much a person makes.

I'm not going to bash union members in total - but I grew up in a strong union area - and am well aware that not all union members are hard working or care about how they do their job.

I'm sorry, what skilled job did your daughter have at Walmart? Was she a mechanic?

I don't have a problem with people who work for Walmart (though I do have a problem with what Walmart pays them as no one can even partially live on it) nor would I ever think less of someone because of where they work. Not to mention anyone that works at a register or has to deal with the customers at Walmart does a job I could never, ever do for any amount of money. The customers are often animals and don't treat anyone with any amount of respect.

However, I would not trust a Walmart employee to work on my car, period.

 

[The Champ]

Chris

I don't go to any rapid oil change/WalMart/Costco/Sam's Club type of place. I call on independent repair shops, new car, used car and fleets for a living selling quality auto parts.

I don't decide on which shop I take my cars to based on anyone being in a union - I base my decision on the knowledge and expertise of the shop owner and the techs he hires. I drive a 1000 miles a week covering my territory - so I have a lot of potential shops to have work on my cars (won't let anyone who doesn't buy parts from me work on my cars).

As to my daughter - she wasn't a mechanic. She was hired as a jewelry sales person at WalMart. My daughter left WalMart's employ back in or around 1997. They paid her well and gave her benefits (WalMart's benefits paid for the delivery of my grandson) and she used her WalMart stock as part of her down payment to buy her first home. As I mentioned earlier - she started with a $1.50 per hour increase and had frequent raises because of the quality of her work.

There may be some low paid people at WalMart, but some people make good livings their.

I took offense to your carte blanche attack on WalMart employees as people that don't have any skills.

 

[ChrisJ]

Chris

I don't go to any rapid oil change/WalMart/Costco/Sam's Club type of place. I call on independent repair shops, new car, used car and fleets for a living selling quality auto parts.

I don't decide on which shop I take my cars to based on anyone being in a union - I base my decision on the knowledge and expertise of the shop owner and the techs he hires. I drive a 1000 miles a week covering my territory - so I have a lot of potential shops to have work on my cars (won't let anyone who doesn't buy parts from me work on my cars).

As to my daughter - she wasn't a mechanic. She was hired as a jewelry sales person at WalMart. My daughter left WalMart's employ back in or around 1997. They paid her well and gave her benefits (WalMart's benefits paid for the delivery of my grandson) and she used her WalMart stock as part of her down payment to buy her first home. As I mentioned earlier - she started with a $1.50 per hour increase and had frequent raises because of the quality of her work.

There may be some low paid people at WalMart, but some people make good livings their.

I took offense to your carte blanche attack on WalMart employees as people that don't have any skills.

To be honest, you can take all the offense you want, no sweat off my back. Fact is I don't know your daughter and you shouldn't be able to care less about what I think.

But my response was aimed at the people they have working on cars so your daughter doesn't enter into it.

 

[The Champ]

To be honest, you can take all the offense you want, no sweat off my back. Fact is I don't know your daughter and you shouldn't be able to care less about what I think.

But my response was aimed at the people they have working on cars so your daughter doesn't enter into it.

You don't know the mechanics at WalMart either. Some of them may be more competent working on cars than you are.

Once again - I took offense to your carte blanche attack on WalMart employees as people that don't have any skills.

 

[$ub$onic]

Okay, I am ending this discussion.

If you have a problem with it, please pm me.