lousypirate
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it isn't impossible I guess, but you wouldn't end up with a useable tire lol
Official Wheel and Tire Fitment Thread
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Thesd45
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New Wheels and Tires
OK, so this is the first set of aftermarket wheels I will be buying for a car ever. I have read thru this entire thread, twice, as well as several other threads, to try to get a basic understanding.
I have a '14 LT hatchback, came with stock 15" wheels, which I have snow tires on them right now. Looking at new wheels and decided I liked the look of 17s.
The wheels I'm looking at are Konig Zero-Ins. 17x7, 5-105/114.3 bolt pattern, 40 offset, with a center bore of 73.1. I used the offset calculator from earlier in the thread and they look like they will clear ok.
I read in one of these threads about getting hubcentric rings, which if I understand correctly, help to center the new wheel on the hub since the Sonic hub is 56.6. I just haven't figured out where to buy them yet, or how absolutely necessary they are.
My biggest question is on tire fitment. I was looking at either 205/50/17s or 225/45/17s. Does anyone see any issue with the wider 225 tires rubbing on the suspension or steering components? Beyond the added handling, the 225/45/17s are a bit cheaper, for some reason.
Any insight is much appreciated!
OK, so this is the first set of aftermarket wheels I will be buying for a car ever. I have read thru this entire thread, twice, as well as several other threads, to try to get a basic understanding.
I have a '14 LT hatchback, came with stock 15" wheels, which I have snow tires on them right now. Looking at new wheels and decided I liked the look of 17s.
The wheels I'm looking at are Konig Zero-Ins. 17x7, 5-105/114.3 bolt pattern, 40 offset, with a center bore of 73.1. I used the offset calculator from earlier in the thread and they look like they will clear ok.
I read in one of these threads about getting hubcentric rings, which if I understand correctly, help to center the new wheel on the hub since the Sonic hub is 56.6. I just haven't figured out where to buy them yet, or how absolutely necessary they are.
My biggest question is on tire fitment. I was looking at either 205/50/17s or 225/45/17s. Does anyone see any issue with the wider 225 tires rubbing on the suspension or steering components? Beyond the added handling, the 225/45/17s are a bit cheaper, for some reason.
Any insight is much appreciated!
ak215371
Member
You will need the hubcentric rings for sure, i'm not sure which ones are the best. But the tire issue, I don't see any reason why the 205's would rub. Now the 225's I would say you need some small spacers maybe 25 mm? I had some 7.5 inch wide wheels on my other sonic, they were 16" diameter, it was close but there was no rubbing.
The Champ
New member
Why would you try and put a spacer on a rim that has the proper offset for our cars when you put on a wider tire?
The factory 17" rims have an offset of 41.5mm. The rims that Thesd45 is looking at have 40mm.
I replaced my 205/55/16 Hankooks with 225/50/16 Goodyear Eagles on my Sonic with stock factory 16's that have an offset of 39mm. Absolutely no rubbing on either the chassis side or the outside.
If you push the tire out 25mm - that would move OE tire size (205/50/17) out 1 full inch. With a 225/45/17 (which will fit just fine with this rim) it would move the tire out nearly 1.4".
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Thesd45
I would go with the 225/45/17's with the hubcentric rings.
I know how much the handling of my car improved with the 225's vs the the 205's...
The tire heights are virtually the same and there is plenty of room in the wheelwell to support the wider tire.
wasteoffilm
Member
225/45/17 have been used many times, you will have no issue. I personally run 235/45/17 for a bit more grip, and to fill out the wheel well, no rub at all, even lowered. The 235's are slightly larger diameter than the original, 225's are almost the same as factory.
The hub rings are basically a necessity, whoever supplies the wheels should have them. Some places, such as Tire Rack, will include them without even really letting you know.
Thesd45
New member
Thanks!
Thanks, The Champ and wasteoffilm!
Its comforting to know that others have used this tire size before with no issues.
I am considering purchasing thru Discount Tire, now that we finally have one in the area. They did include a Wheel Installation Kit in the quote, which says it includes lug nuts, I'll ask and see if the kit also includes the hubcentric rings.
Thanks, The Champ and wasteoffilm!
Its comforting to know that others have used this tire size before with no issues.
I am considering purchasing thru Discount Tire, now that we finally have one in the area. They did include a Wheel Installation Kit in the quote, which says it includes lug nuts, I'll ask and see if the kit also includes the hubcentric rings.
billboening
New member
what is the largest and or widest tire can fit under a sonic with out rubbing?
aka would 245/40R20 fit and not rub it seems like there is allot of room in the fenders
aka would 245/40R20 fit and not rub it seems like there is allot of room in the fenders
billboening
New member
so what is the largest diameter tire that people could fit
KartRacer
Member
Tire diameter / width comparator
Hi everyone. I see questions on tire differences all the time. I have been using this site for years. It give you all of the details to make a good decision on tire sizes.
https://www.tacomaworld.com/tirecalc?tires=205-50r17-225-45r17
Anyone determine MPG variances when switching from low rolling resistance tires?
Hi everyone. I see questions on tire differences all the time. I have been using this site for years. It give you all of the details to make a good decision on tire sizes.
https://www.tacomaworld.com/tirecalc?tires=205-50r17-225-45r17
Anyone determine MPG variances when switching from low rolling resistance tires?
KartRacer
Member
Been through this thread, seems like a lot of blah, blah, blah.
I need to replace tires soon and want to go to 225/45/17. I have seen comments that say they fit and comments that say they need a ring or something. This is an RS with factory wheels. Not interested in adapters of any kind.
Fit or no anyone using them for more than an hour!
Thanks in advance!
I need to replace tires soon and want to go to 225/45/17. I have seen comments that say they fit and comments that say they need a ring or something. This is an RS with factory wheels. Not interested in adapters of any kind.
Fit or no anyone using them for more than an hour!
Thanks in advance!
AndrewGS
Ultimo Hombre
Blah, blah, blah...
Oh, I mean, you'll be fine with that size on factory wheels. You don't need anything to run different tires on stock wheels.
AdorableKaren
Asian Elite
I'm running this size tire on aftermarket wheels with no problem so you will definitely be fine running on stock RS wheels.
RMinNJ
Active member
Karen, Did we ever see the red wheels on your car ?
AdorableKaren
Asian Elite
Haha no award for worst SOFer goes to me
Spent Easter switching to my summer BBS wheels. I don't have a single picture of my sonic with the red winter wheels on. Sorry maybe in six months when I switch them again haha. But I googled white cars red wheels. That's how I made my decision.
