Official: What are your real world MPG Numbers
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Bogus
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I'm real sorry for you bro, you could always move down here
I love California but it's so expensive living here.
The wages are higher in California, at least compared to Louisiana.
Edit: Wikipedia has California ranked #10, $57k/yr. Louisiana ranks #44, $41k/yr.
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GeneralZod
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Enough that I won't go back to regular. Between the mpg, throttle response, and smooth idle it is a no brainer.
Btw, just filled up and bested my last tank of 91@36.5 mpg. That was with traffic and AC. If traffic was not an issue, I could see getting 38-39 mpg. Maybe this week there will be less traffic. Who knows?
I know in the spring, 40 wil be a reality.
GeneralZod
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Total Cost: $34.11
Gallons: 9.505
Price/Gallon: $3.59
Miles: 360.3
DIC MPG: 40.7
Actual MPG: 37.9
Average Speed: 37.3 MPH
Odometer: 1360
93 Octane
Performed oil change at 1011 miles using QS Ultimate Durability 5w30 and AC Delco Filter. Cruise control set at 70 MPH, driving an estimated 200 interstate miles. Used Eco Mode 80% of the time, when using Sport Mode the No Lift Shift was properly tested.
Oh yea, I use the A/C quite a bit since I live in Louisiana. However, towards the end of Oct it should start cooling down enough to where I can stop using it.
Do you have a manual? Btw, I noticed a big difference between 68 and 70 mph. Try 68 next time. You won't notice the time difference,
Yep! It's a manual.
I do 70 MPH usually because if I do less then my passengers will complain that I'm driving like a grandpa. When I'm alone I'll do 65-68 MPH, but my route to work consists of stop lights and max speeds of 45 MPH.
CoHPhasor
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That offset still doesn't square it up.
If the CA members did a roll-call on their rent everyone else here would practically sh*t themselves.
(Cries of "That's what I pay for my mortgage would go far and wide)
Stack the high fuel price and low premium octane and it makes me want to scream sometimes.
14T6MT
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New personal record.
My last tank averaged 44.079 mpg. My DIC, which I reset at the beginning of every tank along with my trip odometer, said about 37 mpg. Way off. I calculated by dividing the distance traveled by the gallons put into the tank.
This is with a stock 1.4T, factory 15" wheels and tires. DIC rated average speed around 35mph...that may be off too. I would estimate this tank was 70% highway 30% "city". I commute 164 miles to school every week at 61-71mph and lately the temp on my commute has averaged about 50-55 degrees. The rest of my driving varies week to week, sometimes just to work and back, sometimes other large trips. I generally keep it below 2500 rpm in "city" driving.
I am using only 93 octane Mobil fuel. It's been getting colder up here so that is probably helping.
In the next few weeks I'll be getting new wheels and tires. I'm interested to see if that effects my mileage.
I'm VERY excited about this because my last car (2002 Subie Forester S auto) got 24mpg highway at best, and was very boring to drive. Now, when I exit the grocery store, I actually feel awesome about my car. That is priceless.
My last tank averaged 44.079 mpg. My DIC, which I reset at the beginning of every tank along with my trip odometer, said about 37 mpg. Way off. I calculated by dividing the distance traveled by the gallons put into the tank.
This is with a stock 1.4T, factory 15" wheels and tires. DIC rated average speed around 35mph...that may be off too. I would estimate this tank was 70% highway 30% "city". I commute 164 miles to school every week at 61-71mph and lately the temp on my commute has averaged about 50-55 degrees. The rest of my driving varies week to week, sometimes just to work and back, sometimes other large trips. I generally keep it below 2500 rpm in "city" driving.
I am using only 93 octane Mobil fuel. It's been getting colder up here so that is probably helping.
In the next few weeks I'll be getting new wheels and tires. I'm interested to see if that effects my mileage.
I'm VERY excited about this because my last car (2002 Subie Forester S auto) got 24mpg highway at best, and was very boring to drive. Now, when I exit the grocery store, I actually feel awesome about my car. That is priceless.
Bogus
Senior Member
Well the lowest rent I've found for an apartment here is around $600, but that's a piece of crap one bedroom in a ****ty neighborhood. The price for an apartment where I would live is $1200-1500. If California rent is double that then you make a good point.
Bogus
Senior Member
Those numbers are pretty damn close to what you can find here in SoCal.
Louisiana also has one of the highest car insurance rates in the nation. It's hard to live in Louisiana, but at least our gas is cheap and we get 93
CoHPhasor
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That isn't sh*t.
When I first moved here I lived in a STUDIO with my wife and paid $800/mo and that was 10 yrs ago.
The one bedroom I live in now is going up to $1300(got in during the downturn) and they're pushing me toward the $1500 they get for the other units.
I was in a 2br shared setup in downtown SF a few years back and it was $2300, with rent control even.
It is retarded expensive to rent a place.
I've heard/seen that New York City is the same, but I'm 20 miles outside of the city here and still have silly rent.
Tack on the cost of gas here is about the highest in the nation and I think CA people get bragging rights on being able to cry the hardest.
(Jobs here don't pay double, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard - 50% more at best)
sbpphoenix
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joe truck driver
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confused about statements of differences between 91 and 87 octanes...91 has relatively same btu's so any improvement in mileage would have to be about timing(advancing) and the engines ability to burn 91 without pinging and see no advantage because engine will burn 87 with out a problem.( Octane rating - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) i can see better acceration but these posts are about milage.
did a one off trip last week end; 10 percent city, 20 % 2 lane, 70 % highway with total aveged speed at 61...yup, it was fun but stupid. 219 miles @ 6.345 gallons...34.5 was really impressed. though it would not be that good. new oil doesn't seem to have changed anything yet but maybe too early to tell. last work fills for 6 legs(between 411 and 428 miles) 46.3 and 45.7 on this oil(mobil 1)...but did have some windy days..really hard with out a log book(sic) to tell differences. have talked to dealer and fuel operators. some winter blend is getting to the pumps which would account for the drop in fuel mileage of late. best on gauge was 60.2 mpg (48.2 hand cal) best hand cal was 50.17 (53.2 on gauge)..thought it was a fluke until i got a 49.7
did a one off trip last week end; 10 percent city, 20 % 2 lane, 70 % highway with total aveged speed at 61...yup, it was fun but stupid. 219 miles @ 6.345 gallons...34.5 was really impressed. though it would not be that good. new oil doesn't seem to have changed anything yet but maybe too early to tell. last work fills for 6 legs(between 411 and 428 miles) 46.3 and 45.7 on this oil(mobil 1)...but did have some windy days..really hard with out a log book(sic) to tell differences. have talked to dealer and fuel operators. some winter blend is getting to the pumps which would account for the drop in fuel mileage of late. best on gauge was 60.2 mpg (48.2 hand cal) best hand cal was 50.17 (53.2 on gauge)..thought it was a fluke until i got a 49.7
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Bogus
Senior Member
Hey phoenix when the world ends lets you and me make a shelter. You have a connect for guns? lolol
CoHPhasor
Active member
Are you serious?
First of all, BTU is the absolute most ridiculous unit for measuring a fuel's ability to make powerful combustion.
An engine is not a water heater or a dryer.
This is especially true for turbo motors because exhaust gas pressure/energy contribute directly to the car's power.
Second, how are you both asking a question and making a statement?
Yes, running 91 octane allows you to run more aggressive timing which translates into more power.
Ever been in an older high performance car using a distributor with bad centrifugal weights?
The weights spin outward based on engine speed and advance timing - when the weights are stuck the timing won't advance and the power flattens out early in the RPM band.
The horse has been beaten about the dual-map in the Sonic's ECU.
You fill up the tank the ECU uses 'the good map', an aggressive timing map, until it detects knock then bounces you down to the ****ty map.
You could, in theory, stay in the good map if conditions are great ; maybe cold weather, not going to hard on the throttle from stops/high load but I wouldn't count on it.
I don't mean to sound rough, but this issue is getting a little old especially since the benefits of aggressive timing go back to the beginning of motor vehicles.
If there's ever any question feel free to pop the hood on a vehicle and retard the timing and see how the vehicle performs.
