2019 Sonic Fleet Order Guide --- Now here - !

[JTee2017]

Thanks to dannyg . .. info on 2019 Sonic . . :banana::banana::banana:

And.. looks like the 1.4L will be in ALL 2019 Sonics. And manual transmission available even on the LS with the 1.4L. . . woot!

https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/NASApp/domestic/proddesc.jsp?year=2019&butID=1&regionID=1&divisionID=3&vehicleID=21628&type=0#

Also.. . no more 1.8L engine and some other things.

Black Bow Ties on the hatchbacks now included in the RS package. .

RS Package
, includes (T3U) front fog lamps, (B6E) sporty rocker
moldings, Black Chevrolet emblems, (T56) rear Sport spoiler,
(E38) RS lettering, (VWC) Piano Black accented instrument
panel, (N35) sport, 3-spoke leather-wrapped with contrasting
stitching and Black Chevrolet emblem, flat bottom steering wheel
and (B54) carpeted front and rear, deluxe floor ma



EDIT - -8:04 AM
2019 Deletions - - -


Chevrolet Car Sonic

Deletions

(G8U) Ivy Metallic exterior color
(GGB) Arctic Blue Metallic exterior color
(PDF) Fun and Sun with RS Package
(PDH) Fun and Sun without RS Package
(FX1) Axle, 3.94 final drive ratio
(FHB) Axle, 3.47 final drive ratio
(LUW) ECOTEC 1.8L Variable Valve Timing DOHC 4-cylinder sequential MFI engine
(LWE) ECOTEC 1.8L Variable Valve Timing DOHC 4-cylinder sequential MFI (PZEV) engine
(M26) 5-speed manual transmission
(MH9) 6-speed automatic transmission


See above - - -

EDIT: The Order Guide page 5 says the 1.4T is standard on all models, coooool! (The 1.8L is mentioned, but only on p. 58, maybe an oversight.) A 2019 1.4T LS sedan just might be my next car people. I'll transfer my 15" aluminums (off a 2014 Sonic) to the new car and I'm all set. 6 speed manual yeah!

Click on "New for 2019" to confirm deletion of 1.8L and a few other changes.

 

[dannyg]

...And manual transmission available even on the LS with the 1.4L. . . woot!

That's the part I like! I wouldn't trade in a 1.8L/5sp LS like mine for another one...but I'm really interested if it's a 1.4T/6sp manual. Depending on pricing, might bump up to an LT hatch...but probably not I'm happy with the sedan.

 

[skurtov]

I never understood the point of the sedan in relation to the hatch.

 

[gnonne]

The sedan is longer than the hatch, has good trunk space, better rear visibility and better mpg. I have two sedans and one hatch and would not buy another hatch.

There are not many items that can fit in the small hatch and NOT fit in the sedan. Due to the extra length, its actually easier to put a bicycle in a sedan than a hatch.

 

[shibbs]

I'm really curious what the "Shock" color will be.

 

[JTee2017]

Also some new features - - -

I've been poring over the Order Guide. ..

The Black Bow Ties will be a nice addition.

And - - - -

New Features

(GKO) Shock exterior color

Changes

(ATH) Keyless Open changes to (AVJ) Keyless Open.
(BTV) Remote vehicle starter system moves from standard on LT Sedan Auto to become part of (PDB) Convenience Package.

 

[dannyg]

Found a new Fleet Guide, it shows Sonic on p. 26...the "Shock" color is kinda lime green:

https://www.gmfleet.com/content/dam.../Resources/02_pdf/2019_fleet_guide_5.8.18.pdf

I like it!

 

[dannyg]

Page 27 of the GM Fleet Guide talks about the new 2019 base LS version on the Cruze Hatch (up until now the Cruze hatch was only available in LT/Premier). I prefer the Sonic hatch, but note there's a Convenience Package including cruise control and alloys. Depending on pricing, this might be interesting...

"HATCH ADDS LS MODEL
The Cruze Hatch lineup expands with the introduction of an LS model. Like
its sedan counterpart, LS Hatch is well equipped with the latest Chevrolet
Infotainment System, a 7-inch diagonal color touch-screen and more. Plus, an
available LS Convenience Package offers Remote Start, cruise control, 16-inch
alloy wheels and steering wheel-mounted controls for audio, phone and cruise."

 

[JTee2017]

Page 27 of the GM Fleet Guide talks about the new 2019 base LS version on the Cruze Hatch (up until now the Cruze hatch was only available in LT/Premier). I prefer the Sonic hatch, but note there's a Convenience Package including cruise control and alloys. Depending on pricing, this might be interesting...

"HATCH ADDS LS MODEL
The Cruze Hatch lineup expands with the introduction of an LS model. Like
its sedan counterpart, LS Hatch is well equipped with the latest Chevrolet
Infotainment System, a 7-inch diagonal color touch-screen and more. Plus, an
available LS Convenience Package offers Remote Start, cruise control, 16-inch
alloy wheels and steering wheel-mounted controls for audio, phone and cruise."

That is interesting. I saw that there is again an LS hatchback but didn't get to look at all the RPOs. So a convenience package is now available for the new LS HB . . nice. It will be nice when the 2019 Sonic appears on the Chevrolet website. Will be easier to see what is standard equipment, options and what all is included.


There was a Convenience Pkg for the 2017 LT Hatchback when I bought also, and it essentially added a lot of the premier features for a decent price. The LT already had the 7" MyLink, steering wheel controls, cruise control, front fog lights, and some other things so the Conveneince Pkg added:

PDB -*CONVENIENCE PACKAGE:
* PWR SEAT ADJUSTER, DRIVER 6 WAY
* DRIVER & FRONT PASSENGER HEATED SEATS
* KEYLESS OPEN AND Push Button START
* Enhanced DIC Display

 

[dannyg]

My ideal Sonic is a 1.4T/6sp stick non-RS LT sedan with Convenience Pkg (which comes with heated steering wheel in non RS ) and roof rack. It’s showing almost $20K at the website with paltry $500 discount, so unless the discounting goes way up I’ll probably wind up with a cheaper 2019 LS with the 1.4T/6sp. Maybe pop for dealer-installed Cruise Control (around $300)...

Or I may just stick with my 2015 which I really like!

 

[JTee2017]

My ideal Sonic is a 1.4T/6sp stick non-RS LT sedan with Convenience Pkg (which comes with heated steering wheel in non RS ) and roof rack. It’s showing almost $20K at the website with paltry $500 discount, so unless the discounting goes way up I’ll probably wind up with a cheaper 2019 LS with the 1.4T/6sp. Maybe pop for dealer-installed Cruise Control (around $300)...

Or I may just stick with my 2015 which I really like!

Yes. . now there is only the $500 because of typical Spring buying season.

Just 6 to 8 weeks ago, There were many sedans on the 20% off plus stack on incentives. I saw LT sedans in many areas going for $15k to $16K.

 

[dannyg]

...Just 6 to 8 weeks ago, There were many sedans on the 20% off plus stack on incentives. I saw LT sedans in many areas going for $15k to $16K.

Yup. Once the 2019s are out, we'll know what the new LS 1.4T pricing and discounting looks like. Maybe pick up a leftover 2018 LT if the price is right? Or a 2019 LS? We'll see!

 

[itsnottommy]

I made a quick mockup of the 2019 Sonic hatch in Shock based on the fleet guide. I was skeptical at first, but it actually ended up looking pretty cool:

 

[JTee2017]

I made a quick mockup of the 2019 Sonic hatch in Shock based on the fleet guide. I was skeptical at first, but it actually ended up looking pr

Hmmm . .. . kind of a PKE your Eyes out Chartreuse.

 

[shorebreeze]

I'm hoping to upgrade my 2014 around 2020 or 2021. I still favor the B-class format, and the Sonic, even this far in, is still the best entry in the category, and I need at least 350 mile range on an EV with fast charging for it to work for me. So, the answer is, probably one more gas powered car in my future and, barring something unexpected from someone else, the Sonic being that car. One day, maybe six, seven, eight years from now, all of that Orion assembly line will go over to a future Bolt that meets those needs . . . . but we're not quite there yet.

If Chevy wants to sell more Sonics in the meantime they should.....

a) offer the 1.5 TDI as an option; it's more power for the boy racers or the freeway on-ramp commute victims, and better MPG and lower emissions for all of us. Assuming, that is, the teething troubles of that engine have been fixed.
b) tweak the car for things like aerodynamics to boost gas mileage, what with gas rising rapidly in price again (can't believe those suckers at Ford discontinued their car line)
c) Interior improvements; better dashboard and door panel material, extra sound insulation and work on the seats a bit (firmed up, more supportive, seat base cushions would be nice). If the bean counters determine this won't work range-wide, at least put it in the Premier.
d) realize the basic platform is very, very good and talk about it. "Big car refinement, small car convenience." That kind of message.
e) get it out of their heads that the car is somehow competing with the Cruze rather than complementing it; they should be looking to grow their market at other companies' expense while remembering each customer has specific needs.

Basically, this more or less means shoehorning the new engine and improved features into the current concept.

 

[JTee2017]

I'm hoping to upgrade my 2014 around 2020 or 2021. I still favor the B-class format, and the Sonic, even this far in, is still the best entry in the category, and I need at least 350 mile range on an EV with fast charging for it to work for me. So, the answer is, probably one more gas powered car in my future and, barring something unexpected from someone else, the Sonic being that car. One day, maybe six, seven, eight years from now, all of that Orion assembly line will go over to a future Bolt that meets those needs . . . . but we're not quite there yet.

If Chevy wants to sell more Sonics in the meantime they should.....

a) offer the 1.5 TDI as an option; it's more power for the boy racers or the freeway on-ramp commute victims, and better MPG and lower emissions for all of us. Assuming, that is, the teething troubles of that engine have been fixed.
b) tweak the car for things like aerodynamics to boost gas mileage, what with gas rising rapidly in price again (can't believe those suckers at Ford discontinued their car line)
c) Interior improvements; better dashboard and door panel material, extra sound insulation and work on the seats a bit (firmed up, more supportive, seat base cushions would be nice). If the bean counters determine this won't work range-wide, at least put it in the Premier.
d) realize the basic platform is very, very good and talk about it. "Big car refinement, small car convenience." That kind of message.
e) get it out of their heads that the car is somehow competing with the Cruze rather than complementing it; they should be looking to grow their market at other companies' expense while remembering each customer has specific needs.

Basically, this more or less means shoehorning the new engine and improved features into the current concept.

And doing all of that for a lower price too I imagine? opcorn:

Not sure there is a next Gen Sonic in the cards in 2020-21, unless gas prices stay at over the $3 price point nation wide again. Kalifornia has had +$3 gas since 2008.

Since 2008, gas prices finally dropped nation wide and people and car makers let their guard down. So here we are. . . going full circle. Too much push for electric vehicles that simply do not have the driving range that most people need. The development costs for electric has caused GM, Ford, etc to let more practical nurturing of gas/diesel powered small cars like Europe had. Lot's of B class cars there most with even smaller engines. . . . 100 HP or less.