New tune features coming soon- including a budget tune

[mitdr774]

Is ECP available on the 1.8 tunes? WOuld be nice to throw in a tune and then as I change things down the road not have to worry about sending in a data log and wait for a new tune to come back. This would be especially helpful when playing around with things to improve economy.

 

[rdss]

That I'm not sure about, shoot Jerry at BNR an email and he can get you the answer or maybe Eric.smit since he's a reseller for Trifecta.

 

[key1cc]

Sorry to be the dumb guy on the block but I am very new to the mod game and this is my 1st turbo car . (Sonic LTZ hatch 1.4 Turbo Automatic)

I am no where near a car mechanic and I don't race.....but I do like the sound of more horsepower and more torque. So please bear with a normal smuck like me.

1. Is this "tune" simply a software update to my Sonic's existing software?

2. Is new hardware required? Like new exhausts, or low flow air filters, etc.?

3. Since I am in central NJ is it simply mailed to me?

4. I hear talk of a cable. I understand that one end would likely plug into the socket under the dash above and to the left of the brake pedal but what does the other end plug into? Do I need another piece of equipment?

5. Does the HP go from 138 to ~200? and the Torque from ~148 to ~ 200?


Sorry for all the questions but I am all for more power. The increase in MPG is nice too but I only have a 6 mile commute to work so that is not the big driver.

Thanks in advance to all who cares to share their wisdom.

Key1

 

[rdss]

1) Yes, it's an updated ECM tune and TCM tune since you're automatic.

2) No upgrades are needed but add to the performance gains.

3) The tune is emailed to you, the cable is USPS shipped to you and see 4).

4) The cable is required, it is the interface between your laptop to your car USB to OBD II port right where you described.

5) With no other mods you will see 20-30 HP and torque gain.

 

[Eric Smit]

Sorry to be the dumb guy on the block but I am very new to the mod game and this is my 1st turbo car . (Sonic LTZ hatch 1.4 Turbo Automatic)

I am no where near a car mechanic and I don't race.....but I do like the sound of more horsepower and more torque. So please bear with a normal smuck like me.

1. Is this "tune" simply a software update to my Sonic's existing software?

2. Is new hardware required? Like new exhausts, or low flow air filters, etc.?

3. Since I am in central NJ is it simply mailed to me?

4. I hear talk of a cable. I understand that one end would likely plug into the socket under the dash above and to the left of the brake pedal but what does the other end plug into? Do I need another piece of equipment?

5. Does the HP go from 138 to ~200? and the Torque from ~148 to ~ 200?


Sorry for all the questions but I am all for more power. The increase in MPG is nice too but I only have a 6 mile commute to work so that is not the big driver.

Thanks in advance to all who cares to share their wisdom.

Key1

1) Yes.
2) No.
3) Tune is emailed; cable is mailed.
4) The cable plugs into your OBDII port and into your laptop. You run a software that you download from Trifecta's website called EZFlash.
5) IIRC, roughly 150 and 180 at the wheels.




-Eric Smit

 

[Eric Smit]

And seeing as rdss posted first, what he said.

Also, yes I'm running ECP.

And mitdr (I think that was your name. Tapatalk, and didn't quote) I'll find out about the 1.8 ECP for you.


-Eric Smit

 

[sx sonic]

Hey Key 1 I'll try to awnser a few and some other members will likely chime in as well

1. Yes it is a software update to the cars engine controller (ecm). It reprograms various functions such as boost pressure, fuel, ignition timing, cam phasing, shift points (on autos). Trifecta offers sevral exclusive features, a big one is "transparency" where the computer does not show that it has been loaded with aftermarket programming. If you require warrenty service you just reprogram or "flash" back to stock and the dealer won't know of this mod. There is more of the features dicussed in the "official trifecta tune page".

2. You can just have the tune, and it offers better results than all the other mods currently out combined. You can add exhaust, intake, and other small mods on down the road and you will datalog your car (drive around with the log program and send back to trifecta) and they will send you a revised tune

3. The cable is mailed to you, the tune is sent via email

4. Yes one end of the cable connects to the OBDII port under the dash, the other end plugs into your laptop which will flash the tune to your car after installing the neccesary software and drivers (included)

5. I don't remember off hand but I believe just a tune is about a 30-40 hp increase and 40-50 ft lbs of torque, more can be had with other mods.. there are several dyno postings floating around..

Troll around the official tune thread for more info and also check out the "how to datalog" thread for more info

-tyler

 

[key1cc]

1) Yes, it's an updated ECM tune and TCM tune since you're automatic.

2) No upgrades are needed but add to the performance gains.

3) The tune is emailed to you, the cable is USPS shipped to you and see 4).

4) The cable is required, it is the interface between your laptop to your car USB to OBD II port right where you described.

5) With no other mods you will see 20-30 HP and torque gain.

Thanks for the quick and enlightening reply. Of the hardware mods it appears to me dropping in a less restrictive air filter is the easiest. How much additional gains can I expect from that? or if you dont mine explaining, what additional mods do I need to add to get up to the 200HP that I thought I read about somewhere on the forum?
Key1

 

[sx sonic]

Well I was a little behind the 8 ball lol. What they said

 

[Eric Smit]

Thanks for the quick and enlightening reply. Of the hardware mods it appears to me dropping in a less restrictive air filter is the easiest. How much additional gains can I expect from that? or if you dont mine explaining, what additional mods do I need to add to get up to the 200HP that I thought I read about somewhere on the forum?
Key1

We are still aiming for the 200hp mark.

Intake, exhaust, tune, port your intake manifold; that's about all we have right now. Unless you want to turbo swap. haha.


-Eric Smit

 

[key1cc]

Hey Key 1 I'll try to awnser a few and some other members will likely chime in as well

1. Yes it is a software update to the cars engine controller (ecm). It reprograms various functions such as boost pressure, fuel, ignition timing, cam phasing, shift points (on autos). Trifecta offers sevral exclusive features, a big one is "transparency" where the computer does not show that it has been loaded with aftermarket programming. If you require warrenty service you just reprogram or "flash" back to stock and the dealer won't know of this mod. There is more of the features dicussed in the "official trifecta tune page".

2. You can just have the tune, and it offers better results than all the other mods currently out combined. You can add exhaust, intake, and other small mods on down the road and you will datalog your car (drive around with the log program and send back to trifecta) and they will send you a revised tune

3. The cable is mailed to you, the tune is sent via email

4. Yes one end of the cable connects to the OBDII port under the dash, the other end plugs into your laptop which will flash the tune to your car after installing the neccesary software and drivers (included)

5. I don't remember off hand but I believe just a tune is about a 30-40 hp increase and 40-50 ft lbs of torque, more can be had with other mods.. there are several dyno postings floating around..

Troll around the official tune thread for more info and also check out the "how to datalog" thread for more info

-tyler

Thanks all.
This is great info. I will do the trolling you reccomend. By the way, I also read somewhere that simply going from 87 octane to 93 octane boosts your power? I am still on my first tank and it is already very peppy (thats why I bought it), but more is always better . I am uncertain what octane the tank was filled with when I got it.
key1

 

[Eric Smit]

Thanks all.
This is great info. I will do the trolling you reccomend. By the way, I also read somewhere that simply going from 87 octane to 93 octane boosts your power? I am still on my first tank and it is already very peppy (thats why I bought it), but more is always better . I am uncertain what octane the tank was filled with when I got it.
key1

The jury is still out, but a good majority of people will say there is a power bump from 87 to 93. Try it out and see what you think.


-Eric Smit

 

[rdss]

Strapping all the bolt ons to the car is about all we have right now.

Intake (DDM and ZZP are your best choices for now), ZZP down pipe, DDM test pipe, cat back, cut out tumblers in the intake and tuning it is what the common car guy can do. If you have time and the balls injectors and running E85 will help or endtankusa has 1.4t turbo parts and you can be the first to go with a bigger turbo and really find out what the weak links are in these little cars.

 

[key1cc]

Hey Key 1 I'll try to awnser a few and some other members will likely chime in as well

...You can just have the tune, and it offers better results than all the other mods currently out combined.



-tyler

WOW :banana:

 

[key1cc]

The jury is still out, but a good majority of people will say there is a power bump from 87 to 93. Try it out and see what you think.


-Eric Smit

For those who have done the Tune....without any other mod is the jury pretty much unanimous that the benefits are easily noticed in automatics? (I think I read around a 20-30 HP and Torque gain)
Key1

 

[Eric Smit]

If you drive a normal Sonic and then a tuned Sonic and don't notice a difference, then you'd have to be in a coma. Hope that answers your question. ;P


-Eric Smit

 

[key1cc]

If you drive a normal Sonic and then a tuned Sonic and don't notice a difference, then you'd have to be in a coma. Hope that answers your question. ;P


-Eric Smit

It does..
Key1

 

[key1cc]

A point of clarification....
If I do not have mods nor plan to get any will I still have to drive around "logging data" and send it to Trifecta to get fine tuning adjustments?
Key1

 

[Eric Smit]

A point of clarification and then I will begin my trolling on the topic.

If I do not have mods nor plan to get any will I still have to drive around "logging data" and send it to Trifecta to get fine tuning adjustments?
Key1

You should be fine without it, but I would still recommend at least one Datalog. It takes 5 minutes, you could do it on your way to the store, and you'll have peace of mind.


-Eric Smit

 

[rdss]

You don't have to. I logged the Ex's bone stock 12 GS and Vince said nothing was needed. I was also informed that the base tunes usually do not need any work done to them until you start modding. But! If you're board as have the time it doesn't hurt to have the tune checked out, you might get that extra 1mpg or 2 HP that was missing.