What would you like to see?

[TN1.4T]

How about a 2l turbo awd with a 7 sp auto coupe.

I'd like to see a 2 door as well...but in HB form like the golf.

 

[ChicksHateMe]

I'd like;

1. A 7th gear. I like the power change, rather than the smooth exchange of the CVT, even if it isn't a standard. Plus increase my MPG's. Mine stinks...

2. The front seats recline all the way back. Although I have an air mattress that fits the back.

3. The front passenger seat fold all the way forward. That way, I could put longer things in my hatch easier.

4. Built in AC inverter with decent power output.

5. Full Size Spare, if possible.

6. Gauge functions via MyLink Display.

7. Fix windshield glare.

8. Make Hatch closer to sedan length, so there's just a little more storage.

9. Make Auto Up/Down on window something that can be disabled.

10. Keyless Start just using FOB in proximity. Current FOB is too long.

11. Width of Armrest doubled, or tripled. Make t removable too.

12. Passenger Armrest same way.

13. Better Bumper Protection under Hatch Door.

14. Roof Rack option designed in already.

15. Better rear airflow so dirt isn't sucked onto the back hatch like a vacuum.

16. Way to save, then export data via USB, in a CSV type file. This way we could grab things like mileage, oil, MPG etc that was recorded over time, export it to a file and import it on a computer. Could be useful, especially with all the other values it could record.

I was originally turned off by not having a center console, but I actually like it the way it is now.

That's most my thoughts but, I may revise......

 

[TN1.4T]

I'd like;


3. The front passenger seat fold all the way forward. That way, I could put longer things in my hatch easier.

7. Fix windshield glare. <-OH God this!



Since the Trax will have fold down front passenger seating, I wonder if this could be an interior swap option?

 

[ChicksHateMe]

Since the Trax will have fold down front passenger seating, I wonder if this could be an interior swap option?

Hmm. I kind of forgot about the Trax, but I'd want all that I mentioned in that along with the 4WD.

My Plans were to possibly trade up to a TRAX in a year or two, but with the issue's I've been dealing with over the past 5 months, It less likely Now.

If things finally get resolved and I see the stability I expected in my Sonic, I may hold on to it and still might do a TRAX. Or might go back to a Jeep.

Still would love all those options though....

 

[TN1.4T]

Hmm. I kind of forgot about the Trax, but I'd want all that I mentioned in that along with the 4WD.

My Plans were to possibly trade up to a TRAX in a year or two, but with the issue's I've been dealing with over the past 5 months, It less likely Now.

If things finally get resolved and I see the stability I expected in my Sonic, I may hold on to it and still might do a TRAX. Or might go back to a Jeep.

Still would love all those options though....

You could always go with the Renegade then. Size of the Trax, and there will be a trail rated version. I've been reading about the Trax, and I have to say I'm a little bummed about the MPG certifications. My wife's Equinox is getting as good MPG's as the Trax is supposed to, and I can fit 5 people and their stuff in there.

 

[Hdmanny]

7 speed auto?
Why not just do a CVT at that point.

I have only driven one cvt car, a Sentra 2l and I did not like the acceleration. It was slower than my Sonic with a smaller engine. The cvt has to be made larger to be equal to an auto with more gears so it would require more room. I just do not thnk the belt device will hold up as well as real gears also.

How about a hb fastback design coupe?

 

[CheapFuneral]

Just a 2.0t 275hp so I can put the focus in my dust.


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[MaD]

Id have to say..

15. Better rear airflow so dirt isn't sucked onto the back hatch like a vacuum.<<<<!!! <-OH God this!

7. Fix windshield glare.

11. Width of Armrest doubled, or tripled. Make t removable too.

gauges (I can get an Ultragauge, but that won't give me the oil pressure and oil temp that I'd like) ….

I have been using Torque free with my Galaxy3 tucked right under my spedo but to have actual gauges would be much better.. Im sure theres things Ive missed...

 

[Swordsmith]

Engine should simply be an option, makes no sense to have RS be 1.4T only, and LS be 1.8 only.

More programmables. I dislike the way the drivers side window works, for example, but don't change it, let me change it like I can the way the door locks work. I also dislike the way the car drops power during takeoff. And why not an option for whether I want a stable power level, or all available power when it's cold out? And the air compressor shouldn't have to go on automatically when the defrost is selected, as it does now, I should be able to have that be snowflake button only if I want. I know, the fact that the doors are programmable has given me delusions of grandeur, but I can see it all now!

Real gauges, not just ECU displays. The current gauges not only fall woefully short on variety, but the ones we have are pretty bad. The RPM gauge is laggy, when it is only really informative if its display is live. The gas gauge is nearly hopeless, displaying only the top 10 gallons or so of a 12.2 gallon tank. The SHIFT indicator doesn't know when I should shift, and there's no indicator telling me what gear I am actually in.

And now for the "hard" stuff

AWD option.
VOLTEC powertrain option

 

[Swordsmith]

I think I misunderstood the question, it isn't "what Sonic tweaks do you want" but rather "what other types of vehicle could be sitting on the Sonic frame?"

We have a sub-compact Sedan and Hatchback (both actual Sonic), a Compact Sedan (Cruze), a compact SUV (Trax) and a second compact SUV (Encore)

OK how about a small pickup, ala the old Ranger? Or maybe the Brat?

How about a Coupe, and a Convertible Coupe?

A Wagon (simply use the Sonic Sedan length but the Hatchback shape, as suggested above)

A sleek, low to the ground sportscar?

How about a light Van, similar to the Transit?

A Dune Buggy?

Or how about you do all of the above, by stealing the idea of the VW Thing; removable panel construction... only do it one better and let them be configurable in a variety of ways?!

 

[CheapFuneral]

I think I misunderstood the question, it isn't "what Sonic tweaks do you want" but rather "what other types of vehicle could be sitting on the Sonic frame?"

We have a sub-compact Sedan and Hatchback (both actual Sonic), a Compact Sedan (Cruze), a compact SUV (Trax) and a second compact SUV (Encore)

OK how about a small pickup, ala the old Ranger? Or maybe the Brat?

How about a Coupe, and a Convertible Coupe?

A Wagon (simply use the Sonic Sedan length but the Hatchback shape, as suggested above)

A sleek, low to the ground sportscar?

How about a light Van, similar to the Transit?

A Dune Buggy?

Or how about you do all of the above, by stealing the idea of the VW Thing; removable panel construction... only do it one better and let them be configurable in a variety of ways?!

Or that nice rwd coupe concept that's never coming out... DRIFTO


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[ChicksHateMe]

I think I misunderstood the question, it isn't "what Sonic tweaks do you want" but rather "what other types of vehicle could be sitting on the Sonic frame?"

We have a sub-compact Sedan and Hatchback (both actual Sonic), a Compact Sedan (Cruze), a compact SUV (Trax) and a second compact SUV (Encore)

OK how about a small pickup, ala the old Ranger? Or maybe the Brat?

How about a Coupe, and a Convertible Coupe?

A Wagon (simply use the Sonic Sedan length but the Hatchback shape, as suggested above)

A sleek, low to the ground sportscar?

How about a light Van, similar to the Transit?

A Dune Buggy?

Or how about you do all of the above, by stealing the idea of the VW Thing; removable panel construction... only do it one better and let them be configurable in a variety of ways?!

Working with PC's and compatibles, where you could build up what you wanted with compatible parts, from basic to powerful, I've always wondered why a car company didn't produce a basic car frame and drive train and a number of kits people could just pick and choose from to create their own model. I'd think the first to do it would make a boat load of money. Plus, create a much larger after-market.

Sure there are some kit cars now, but if it was well planned from the ground up, it would be so much easier to do, and a much larger market. I think anyway.

I'd love to be able to buy something like the frame and drive train and then be able to buy the parts to make it look like my old 67 Firebird Convertible on the outside, but with all the safety, comfort and features of a 2015 car on the inside. THAT would be my dream car.

 

[RobbyS]

Would it be so hard for GM to come out with a 2 seater that's RWD, V8, cloth interior, and under $30k? Sort of like a Miata, but a V8. Doesn't have to have power windows or locks. I'd be fine without traction control or ABS.

 

[Hdmanny]

I'd love to be able to buy something like the frame and drive train and then be able to buy the parts to make it look like my old 67 Firebird Convertible on the outside, but with all the safety, comfort and features of a 2015 car on the inside. THAT would be my dream car.

I think there is a company that makes body kits that you can use to make a new car look like an old classic. I saw one that change a Miata into a 66 Mustang, it was not the same size but it I'd have the same body style.

 

[TN1.4T]

Would it be so hard for GM to come out with a 2 seater that's RWD, V8, cloth interior, and under $30k? Sort of like a Miata, but a V8. Doesn't have to have power windows or locks. I'd be fine without traction control or ABS.

The problem with this would be making sure it meets safty standards, and that means that ABS and other nanny controls are a must unfortunantly. I wouldn't mind seeing the code 130 or 140s (whatever the small RWD coupe concept from a while back was...

 

[ChrisJ]

Would it be so hard for GM to come out with a 2 seater that's RWD, V8, cloth interior, and under $30k? Sort of like a Miata, but a V8. Doesn't have to have power windows or locks. I'd be fine without traction control or ABS.

The problem with this would be making sure it meets safty standards, and that means that ABS and other nanny controls are a must unfortunantly. I wouldn't mind seeing the code 130 or 140s (whatever the small RWD coupe concept from a while back was...

Yeah, that and you'd sell like 5 of them.

GM's sports car is the vette, it has been for over 50 years and that's not going to change. When Buick made a car that beat the vette only in a straight line GM put a stop to it.

The Sonic is a tiny economical car, not a performance sports car and it never will be.

 

[TN1.4T]

Yeah, that and you'd sell like 5 of them.

GM's sports car is the vette, it has been for over 50 years and that's not going to change. When Buick made a car that beat the vette only in a straight line GM put a stop to it.

The Sonic is a tiny economical car, not a performance sports car and it never will be.

Years ago I could see that, but with the CTS-V, Z/28, and even the ATS-V, the Vette doesn't quite hold the Monster performance throne that it used to in the GM portfolio. There could still be plenty of room for a small (and only small), cheaper, more economical 2 seater (a la the MX-5) that wouldn't eat into the vette's market. If anything, it could help massage the current car buyer into looking at the Vette as an upgrade when they get a bit more financially secure. It's similar to what Merc and BMW do. Start someone in a lower priced car, and as they grow economically you can move them up your line. Corvettes are far from the only 2 passenger RWD coupes on the market, but they are one of the best. That's undisputed, especially the current generation, but creating a small coupe with BRZ levels of handling and MX-5 levels of power would be a great option. Heck they already have a concept for just that in the 130R, and with Alpha/Fiat-Abarth already expected to have at least one competitor in this market, they could get ahead of the curve if they would just look forward. Not all enthusiasts want huge snorting V8's (not that I don't love huge snorting V8's mind you). Some of us would like an economical snorting 1.6T pushing power to the rear wheels if it would mean a price tag under $30K and great handling potential. It can be done, but perhaps only if GM were to adopt something along the lines of VW's MDQ technology.

 

[CheapFuneral]

Years ago I could see that, but with the CTS-V, Z/28, and even the ATS-V, the Vette doesn't quite hold the Monster performance throne that it used to in the GM portfolio. There could still be plenty of room for a small (and only small), cheaper, more economical 2 seater (a la the MX-5) that wouldn't eat into the vette's market. If anything, it could help massage the current car buyer into looking at the Vette as an upgrade when they get a bit more financially secure. It's similar to what Merc and BMW do. Start someone in a lower priced car, and as they grow economically you can move them up your line. Corvettes are far from the only 2 passenger RWD coupes on the market, but they are one of the best. That's undisputed, especially the current generation, but creating a small coupe with BRZ levels of handling and MX-5 levels of power would be a great option. Heck they already have a concept for just that in the 130R, and with Alpha/Fiat-Abarth already expected to have at least one competitor in this market, they could get ahead of the curve if they would just look forward. Not all enthusiasts want huge snorting V8's (not that I don't love huge snorting V8's mind you). Some of us would like an economical snorting 1.6T pushing power to the rear wheels if it would mean a price tag under $30K and great handling potential. It can be done, but perhaps only if GM were to adopt something along the lines of VW's MDQ technology.

Your right and wrong the vette is still the flag ship. The ctsv is down tuned to be slower then the vette. Always has been.

However I'd agree there is a market for a 4cylinder turbo rwd car but it's already been determined the market is small and there are already a few cars there. Also the new camaro for 2016 is going to be built on the ats platform so look for a 2.0t under $30 is say and maybe even the atsv v6tt as the middle engine.


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[TN1.4T]

Your right and wrong the vette is still the flag ship. The ctsv is down tuned to be slower then the vette. Always has been.

However I'd agree there is a market for a 4cylinder turbo rwd car but it's already been determined the market is small and there are already a few cars there. Also the new camaro for 2016 is going to be built on the ats platform so look for a 2.0t under $30 is say and maybe even the atsv v6tt as the middle engine.


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I expect the V6TT to be somewhere in there, but I'm still iffy on the 2.0T in the Camaro. I know that Ford did it with the 2.3Ecoboost, but from what I've seen the 2.0T ATS's performance has been less than stellar. GM can't chance putting a lackluster engine in their sports car market darling (unless weight is greatly reduced or power greatly increased) or it would be eaten alive by the 2.3 'Stang. I'm guessing 3.6->3.6TT->V8 as the engine lineup. Along with 8sp automatics as options to help with CAFE standards. 2016's CTS-V will be a 200MPH sedan. If that's not on par with the Vette, I don't know what is. Also, I forgot the ZL1, which by all accounts would easily be a Vette killer.

 

[CheapFuneral]

It's on par, it uses the same motor. 6.2l supercharged. It is however down tuned from the z06 making less hp and weighing more.


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