ThatTmoGuy
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When you boost that 1.8 I hope your wallet can handle the torture.
4 ways to increase HP on a budget
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DevilSonic89
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it will. Thats y im working with an aftermarket company 
and dint get mad when i pass ya
and dint get mad when i pass ya
ThatTmoGuy
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do you know have 109 pics on your phone $ub?
007CobaltLS
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I've got over $2000 in suspension for my Cobalt...and that's using springs not coilovers. Another $1000 in audio. Almost $1000 in appearance (LED 3rd brake light, shorty antenna, projectors, etc.). And probably $1500-2000 in performance. Debating on ZZP's SC kit on it to actually give it some power as well.
But yeah, back on topic of the thread...I would consider that a budget build compared to say spending $4-6k on a SC or TC setup for an NA car. Or building the car completely.
But yeah, back on topic of the thread...I would consider that a budget build compared to say spending $4-6k on a SC or TC setup for an NA car. Or building the car completely.
ThatTmoGuy
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Off topic again (sorry) I've always wanted to build a no frills only what you need track car.
Back to the topic, I believe I have nearly the perfect budget build Sonic you can achieve, although I do still want springs for the budget portion of my Sonic's life.
Back to the topic, I believe I have nearly the perfect budget build Sonic you can achieve, although I do still want springs for the budget portion of my Sonic's life.
scott5626
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I'd love to, thanks for asking.
the stock computer is set at stock power levels, so it dumbs down the engine to maintain stock power levels, regardless of what mod you add. if you don't get a tune, the mods are a waste of money.
-Eric Smit
When I see tune I see "void warranty" I'll pass on that for now.
ThatTmoGuy
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It's been proven on many occasions that at the dealer level they cannot find your tune!
Swordsmith
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Go speak to your service department. I was completely up front with them about my outlandish stack of mods, and their position was that if I was sure a problem stemmed from one of my mods, I should not bring it in, but if I was sure it was not, they would gladly cover the repair under warranty. Assuming that same policy is in place at your local service dept (how they handle these things can vary) then the only warranty voiding you'll be doing is on the handful of things that could go wrong from telling the engine to run properly. Which would be... hmm I can't think of anything. But lets stretch and say spark plugs, injectors, rings... would that be too high a price to pay, to not have those warrantied? At any rate you could still expect your drive train, your brakes, your radiator, so on and so forth, 99% of the car still to be covered since there's no conceivable way the tune could have affected them.
That's with the total honesty policy. If you use Trifecta tune, it comes with a transparency mode which has proven invisible to dealers (even to one who knew it was there and was deliberately looking for it), so if you use the "don't ask, don't tell" approach, you almost certainly won't have to worry even about those few items. And since it is nearly inconceivable that a tune would damage any of them, why should you?
I'm running 230+ hp thru this engine, for the past 5000 miles or so, and it hasn't had any complaints, I'm pretty sure just going to 150 or so isn't going to to bung it up much.
That's with the total honesty policy. If you use Trifecta tune, it comes with a transparency mode which has proven invisible to dealers (even to one who knew it was there and was deliberately looking for it), so if you use the "don't ask, don't tell" approach, you almost certainly won't have to worry even about those few items. And since it is nearly inconceivable that a tune would damage any of them, why should you?
I'm running 230+ hp thru this engine, for the past 5000 miles or so, and it hasn't had any complaints, I'm pretty sure just going to 150 or so isn't going to to bung it up much.
seanp1
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Bogus
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That's Bogus, Man!
I see what you did there.
Well it's about 5 minutes from my house so that's why I go there a lot. I might just search for other ones to meet them and see how friendly they are.
Swordsmith
242hp/252 ft-lbs BNR EFI
I'd rather drive a half hour than spend that half hour pleading with an uncooperative service dept. I don't see where they benefit either; they get paid for doing the work whether its GM shelling out or the customer... and if they insist the customer pay they're likely to lose his business in the future.
I could see avoiding doing things that might come back to bite them in the ass, but a spark plug wire? Come on now, those things are supposed to be pretty robust!
I could see avoiding doing things that might come back to bite them in the ass, but a spark plug wire? Come on now, those things are supposed to be pretty robust!
HareBrained
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Does anyone else think of those "4 ways" as just "one way"?
ungawd
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More like 3: Tune, intake, exhaust.
firstorbit84
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Does intake really add that much on our cars?