2014 Blue RS
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Hulty, love the lowered look. The ride has to get a little rougher though right?
Hulty's Sonic
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mgale1911
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Alright, usually my buddies and I have noticed leaking on OE shocks but that could just be that we drove cars a bit older. And I'm not worried about becoming more proficient, I do that stuff for a living haha.
2014 Blue RS
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Looks real nice!
Hulty
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Thanks brother, I appreciate it!!
Hulty
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I realized I never answered you on this....
As far as the ride goes, honestly no, I don't think it got a little rougher. Did it get different, yes, but not rougher.
I think if I was to have someone ride in the Sonic that had never felt the stock, I don't even think that they'd comment on the ride quality other than to say that it feels nice.
I anguished over which springs to go with, SOOOO GLAD that I decided to go the Eibach route.
Wooksquatch
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How many spray cans did you use on the lights, front, rear and fog?
I am thinking about painting the chrome right out of the car. I am thinking white diamond tricoat might look decent with the blue topaz metallic.
Hulty
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To be safe, since you're bordering on 1-2 cans, I'd buy 2 cans of gray primer, base, and gloss.
They make really quality stuff, you'll like it.
Wooksquatch
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Thanks I figured it would be around 2 cans.
Stew
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Took some pics last night, thought I'd share....
Everytime I see an Inferno Orange Metallic Sonic I like the color more and more, I like!
Hulty
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Thanks brother I appreciate it!
Obviously I like it too, but every time I take new pics my appreciation of it grows. It's one of those colors that can really shift from IOM to orange-red depending upon the lighting conditions.
Stew
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Ok, I had checked in on your build thread pretty early on and then again just above, but I have to confess you were posting at such an intense rate there for a while that I had skipped over everything in between.
Well, I just read the whole thing and there's all kinds of good stuff in the middle there! I was particularly interested in the dyno stuff since that's mostly the kind of stuff I'm doing to mine, stuff that makes more power.
That horsepower curve sure does look artificially flat to me too, and later I saw that you did the bypass mod and that you were heading back to the dyno, did you see any better numbers like maybe the BPV solenoid was responsible in the first graphs?
I had similar concerns with Trifecta as you and the others who commented did, they do have a good product for those who just want to be tuned and don't care about anything deeper, or about the 'whats' and 'whys' of what everything's doing.
Trifecta has to be altering the fueling, you aren't the only one who's mentioned that you start pretty lean and then get kinda rich up at the top end. The air/fuel was really pretty even on my dyno run, if a tad bit on the rich side, I did play a little with air/fuel but ended up leaving it stock.
Well, I just read the whole thing and there's all kinds of good stuff in the middle there! I was particularly interested in the dyno stuff since that's mostly the kind of stuff I'm doing to mine, stuff that makes more power.
That horsepower curve sure does look artificially flat to me too, and later I saw that you did the bypass mod and that you were heading back to the dyno, did you see any better numbers like maybe the BPV solenoid was responsible in the first graphs?
I had similar concerns with Trifecta as you and the others who commented did, they do have a good product for those who just want to be tuned and don't care about anything deeper, or about the 'whats' and 'whys' of what everything's doing.
Trifecta has to be altering the fueling, you aren't the only one who's mentioned that you start pretty lean and then get kinda rich up at the top end. The air/fuel was really pretty even on my dyno run, if a tad bit on the rich side, I did play a little with air/fuel but ended up leaving it stock.
Hulty
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Basically the numbers for both dynos were very similar, 150-155HP at the wheel. What's really making me ponder is the VERY apparent "pulsing" that the engine seems to do. Literally makes the graph look like tremors after a quake. I'm dreading the "everything is good" response from Trifecta, but I'm itching to datalog and see if they see anything. As I've plainly stated in many threads prior, I really wish I could pay them(only if need be of course) to really dive into my tune and search out potential anomalies and/or help me troubleshoot by engaging me as a customer and really get behind what I'm looking to solve or accomplish rather than generically being lumped in with the masses by really dialing in the datasets in the tables rather than just checking each to see that they're in "acceptable levels" of each table.
rsSteve
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I totally agree with this. This is also what help solidify my decision on going with HPT, I dont want cookie cutter I want personalized.
Hulty
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Respectfully, please elaborate.
It's hard not to give my claims at least some degree of understanding, especially when the amount of people on here that have never "required" a retune seems to be mounting.
Stew
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Eric, Trifecta does fine tune their tunes with data logs and depending on what mods you have on your car, but reading between the lines of what Hulty and rsSteve are posting, that is not what they are looking for when they say personalized.
This is just how I'm reading what they're posting but it sounds like they have a genuine desire to know things like what is exactly being changed and why those things are being changed.
Hulty says:
"help me troubleshoot by engaging me as a customer and really get behind what I'm looking to solve or accomplish rather than generically being lumped in with the masses by really dialing in the datasets in the tables rather than just checking each to see that they're in "acceptable levels" of each table"
To me that sounds like Hulty would like to work with Trifecta by having a back and forth conversation about what they change and how to tweak those changes, and because of this I don't think he'll ever be satisfied with Trifecta because they've said in other threads that they don't go into the specifics of what they're changing. It sounds like they update your tune and say "ok, go ahead and try this."
I certainly don't fault Trifecta for that, it is their business model and they are protecting their livelyhood, it just means that they are probably not the best choice for those that want to know those details. Also, this is coming from someone who's never interacted with Trifecta so I could be wrong...
This is just how I'm reading what they're posting but it sounds like they have a genuine desire to know things like what is exactly being changed and why those things are being changed.
Hulty says:
"help me troubleshoot by engaging me as a customer and really get behind what I'm looking to solve or accomplish rather than generically being lumped in with the masses by really dialing in the datasets in the tables rather than just checking each to see that they're in "acceptable levels" of each table"
To me that sounds like Hulty would like to work with Trifecta by having a back and forth conversation about what they change and how to tweak those changes, and because of this I don't think he'll ever be satisfied with Trifecta because they've said in other threads that they don't go into the specifics of what they're changing. It sounds like they update your tune and say "ok, go ahead and try this."
I certainly don't fault Trifecta for that, it is their business model and they are protecting their livelyhood, it just means that they are probably not the best choice for those that want to know those details. Also, this is coming from someone who's never interacted with Trifecta so I could be wrong...
