FIT or Sonic?
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wingman
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I am also drunk! 
I agree that both are great cars. I almost got a Fit a few years back. And here locally Honda is offering a ridiculous warranty on their 2012 models. Like 120k miles, maybe more. not that Chevys havent been good to me, but Honda has been on top of its $hit for a loooong time. And the reliability of one is outstanding. Gm seems to have finally gotten with the program though. And 100k warranty is reassuring enough for me. The Fit may be one step ahead for now by having a sport kit or whatever, but chevy will soon have the RS. As I said, they are both good little cars, but you can have fun in a sonic and still pull better fuel economy that driving a Fit conservatively.
I agree that both are great cars. I almost got a Fit a few years back. And here locally Honda is offering a ridiculous warranty on their 2012 models. Like 120k miles, maybe more. not that Chevys havent been good to me, but Honda has been on top of its $hit for a loooong time. And the reliability of one is outstanding. Gm seems to have finally gotten with the program though. And 100k warranty is reassuring enough for me. The Fit may be one step ahead for now by having a sport kit or whatever, but chevy will soon have the RS. As I said, they are both good little cars, but you can have fun in a sonic and still pull better fuel economy that driving a Fit conservatively.
dvn
New member
I went with the Sonic for a few reasons. First- My 2004 Silverado has never been back to the dealer since new. It has been a great truck and still drives like new. I'm hoping the Sonic will prove to be as reliable. Second- My wife leased a Honda Accord in 2008 and ended up thankful that it was just a lease. It wasn't a bad car. It was just boring and had some annoying attributes like a lot of road noise and a strange harmonic buzz when the rear windows were open. Third- One of my main objectives in purchasing a new car was fuel efficiency and the Sonic wins by a considerable margin over the Fit. I'm sure you would be happy either way. This was just my thought process. Good luck!
Eric Smit
Enforcer
I am sober!
I bought the Sonic because I had a 2004 Aveo LT and I loved it. There was no question on what my next car was. I didn't trade it in for gas mileage or more space, I just generally liked the car. I know it doesn't rightly help you out all that much, but I've never had an issue with GM. My mom had a Cavalier that lasted until the tranny blew at 210k miles.
Now on Honda's side, even though I don't really care for Honda; they are reliable vehicles. You can go online and look for a Honda with 300k miles and I'm sure you'll find one.
Regardless of what vehicle you pick, it's your call. As long as you're happy, it was a good decision.
I bought the Sonic because I had a 2004 Aveo LT and I loved it. There was no question on what my next car was. I didn't trade it in for gas mileage or more space, I just generally liked the car. I know it doesn't rightly help you out all that much, but I've never had an issue with GM. My mom had a Cavalier that lasted until the tranny blew at 210k miles.
Now on Honda's side, even though I don't really care for Honda; they are reliable vehicles. You can go online and look for a Honda with 300k miles and I'm sure you'll find one.
Regardless of what vehicle you pick, it's your call. As long as you're happy, it was a good decision.
For me it mostly came down to comfort and the Sonic is waaaaayyyy more comfy than the fit not to mention there is no leatherette or heated seat option for the fit anyway. If you are a non car enthusiast just looking for reliable inexpensive transportation, I would buy the 1.8 LT. It gets the same gas mileage as a fit and should be cheaper to boot. If you really like driving and are a car guy at heart, go ahead and find a LTZ. Like everyone else on here that knew much of nothing, you'll be convinced after one test drive.
Sonic Boomer
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If you are 6'-3", revisit both cars and see how open the cabin feels. The (2010?) Fit I sat in (and I'm only 6-1) didn't have quite enough leg room. It may be Honda has changed the dimensions around the drivers seat, but the Fit seemed more cramped. The Sonic seemed spacious in comparison.
You didn't mention which engine you are considering for the Sonic. Be aware that many of the comments made here are referring to the 1.4 Turbocharged engine, which is available only in Manual Transmission (Automatic Turbos should be in production in the spring of this year).
The Sonic is a new car, but based on proven components, so the reliability issue is not so great as you might assume on a new car model.
Because the Sonic is new and somewhat unique, it is likely to have a community of enthusiastic owners (as witnessed by this forum). I haven't checked, but since the Fit is well established and somewhat ubiquitous, I would be surprised if it had quite the same dynamic amongst owners. Of course, only you know if this has worth to you.
Don't worry too much over it. Between the Fit and the Sonic, you've already eliminated the bad choices in this segment. I can't imagine you would regret either choice.
Last, one thing I love about the Sonic is that it is a USA car (to the extent such a thing is possible). I plan to stay here and expect my kid to as well. I believe the healthiest economic option is to buy products made in and by the same country's economy that you get your paycheck from.
This is often impractical or impossible, but I am delighted to be able to buy this USA car without feeling I compromised any of my objectives.
Bottom-line, you've narrowed your choice to two good ones. Your decision at this point is probably more subjective than any objective information we can give you.
You didn't mention which engine you are considering for the Sonic. Be aware that many of the comments made here are referring to the 1.4 Turbocharged engine, which is available only in Manual Transmission (Automatic Turbos should be in production in the spring of this year).
The Sonic is a new car, but based on proven components, so the reliability issue is not so great as you might assume on a new car model.
Because the Sonic is new and somewhat unique, it is likely to have a community of enthusiastic owners (as witnessed by this forum). I haven't checked, but since the Fit is well established and somewhat ubiquitous, I would be surprised if it had quite the same dynamic amongst owners. Of course, only you know if this has worth to you.
Don't worry too much over it. Between the Fit and the Sonic, you've already eliminated the bad choices in this segment. I can't imagine you would regret either choice.
Last, one thing I love about the Sonic is that it is a USA car (to the extent such a thing is possible). I plan to stay here and expect my kid to as well. I believe the healthiest economic option is to buy products made in and by the same country's economy that you get your paycheck from.
This is often impractical or impossible, but I am delighted to be able to buy this USA car without feeling I compromised any of my objectives.
Bottom-line, you've narrowed your choice to two good ones. Your decision at this point is probably more subjective than any objective information we can give you.
keto06
New member
Truth.
I am a LONGTIME Honda fan, but I just couldnt get behind the fit.
1. The motor makes almost no torque and outside of a K swap or boost, wont be able to. The Sonic makes good torque already due to being turbo (assuming you go with the 1.4L). Also a 6 spd is not currently available on the Fit. And with a tune, they arent even comparable torque wise.
2. I personally think the Fit looks like a girl car. I think the 1st gen US fits looked good, but the current body style, not so much. I think the Sonic looks aggressive coming at you which made it more enticing. (opinion)
3. As mentioned, its made in America. I never really considered this before, but after joining this forum, I realized that this really is a HUGE plus to this car.
Even though the car itself is new, the motor has been around a while and with the move toward better fuel economy, I think it would depreciate less than usual.
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Master P's Theater
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I also dig me a Honda or two, or three. That said, there's no contest here. The Sonic's styling wins, hands down over the Fit. The ability to mod this car (if you're into that sort of thing), and make it look sick, for relatively low spendage is what's drawn me to it. And like Keto said, the Fit is DEFINITELY a chick car. Apologies in advance to any dudes who own it.
Sonic Boomer
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This is a very good question.
IMHO, the dynamic between GM management and it's workforce got poisoned! Management and the union were both arrogant and had experienced a negotiation system where the bigger a$$hole you were, the better off you were when you left the table. I think it actually reached the point where the animosity between the Union negotiators and the management negotiators was more powerful than the interest of their constituents.
Our government is, in many ways, stuck in the same quagmire between Democrats and Republicans.
Having to be bailed out and catching the public eye as it did, both the Union and Management were forced to take a reality pill and figure out how to make the company viable for the future. We have seen a long overdue emphasis on fuel efficiency with the latest generation (witness Equinox, Cruze, and Sonic).
People complain about the taxes on gasoline, but the truth is that our government spends much, much more money attempting to maintain stability for the oil flow out of the Middle East than these taxes could begin to cover.
American consumers are making decisions based on a "false" economy (cheap fuel). European gas rates are more in line with reality, but oil companies (w/lobbyists) are very happy with the way Uncle Sam (both parties) is subsidizing the cost of gas so high volume sales are maintained.
Ultimately, I believe fuel efficient cars will be a simple necessity, and it has long bothered me that US companies would be caught with their pants down were the cost of oil to get out of control. (though Ford has been making a competitive efficient car with the Focus)
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I don't think you can go wrong with either car on a personal choice level.
However, not knowing your financial situation other than you are fairly young and in grad school, it may come down to your finances.
If I were 23 again and still in school, I'd find me a good (hopefully reliable) low-mid mileage used car and save up for the kick-ass car that I want for after I graduate and get some money rolling in. There is no sense in buying something that might cause a big financial burden so early in life and potentially jack up your credit if it does.
Sit down run some numbers on what you monthly payment and insurance would be on each car and let your wallet help you decide as well.
Just my .02 cents (.25 w/ inflation)
However, not knowing your financial situation other than you are fairly young and in grad school, it may come down to your finances.
If I were 23 again and still in school, I'd find me a good (hopefully reliable) low-mid mileage used car and save up for the kick-ass car that I want for after I graduate and get some money rolling in. There is no sense in buying something that might cause a big financial burden so early in life and potentially jack up your credit if it does.
Sit down run some numbers on what you monthly payment and insurance would be on each car and let your wallet help you decide as well.
Just my .02 cents (.25 w/ inflation)
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Gimpster
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Sober now.
I know this has nothing to do with the OP's questions, but for the 300k on a Honda folks....
My 2001 Dodge Ram has 345k on it now and shows no signs of stopping. I've never turned a wrench on this truck except for tires, lube / filter swaps and a pitman arm. My 1996 Mustang has 206k and I've upgraded suspension here and there, but shes never let me down.
While there are some very poorly engineered cars out there, I really think a vehicles longevity is more often determined by routine & preventative maintenance. For every older Honda at 300k, I can name you 10 that died at 100k due to owners neglecting timing belts.
As you can tell I'm not particularly brand loyal
I know this has nothing to do with the OP's questions, but for the 300k on a Honda folks....
My 2001 Dodge Ram has 345k on it now and shows no signs of stopping. I've never turned a wrench on this truck except for tires, lube / filter swaps and a pitman arm. My 1996 Mustang has 206k and I've upgraded suspension here and there, but shes never let me down.
While there are some very poorly engineered cars out there, I really think a vehicles longevity is more often determined by routine & preventative maintenance. For every older Honda at 300k, I can name you 10 that died at 100k due to owners neglecting timing belts.
As you can tell I'm not particularly brand loyal
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keto06
New member
Sober now.
I know this has nothing to do with the OP's questions, but for the 300k on a Honda folks....
My 2001 Dodge Ram has 345k on it now and shows no signs of stopping. I've never turned a wrench on this truck except for tires, lube / filter swaps and a pitman arm. My 1996 Mustang has 206k and I've upgraded suspension here and there, but shes never let me down.
While there are some very poorly engineered cars out there, I really think a vehicles longevity is more often determined by routine & preventative maintenance. For every older Honda at 300k, I can name you 10 that died at 100k due to owners neglecting timing belts.
As you can tell I'm not particularly brand loyal
Not to take anything away from your comment, but a Cummins Diesel isnt a very fair comparison. I wanna see the % of gas powered Rams above 300k.
I am fairly impressed with the mileage on the Rustang, but like you said, its mainly about the driver and maintanence.This will be my first non-Honda since my first car, a Ford Probe.
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dumpsterj
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i never even test drove the fit because of the fuel economy it gets for its size. It should be better , much in the same way the 1.8l sonics should be better (i didnt drive one of those either).
i forgot to add. If the 1.4l turbo sonic didnt exist , i would have probably drove it and the fit. I would have probably shelled out the cash for the cruze eco and added leather etc too is. thankfully the sonic turbo ltz does it all
i forgot to add. If the 1.4l turbo sonic didnt exist , i would have probably drove it and the fit. I would have probably shelled out the cash for the cruze eco and added leather etc too is. thankfully the sonic turbo ltz does it all
robd53
New member
The whole bailout thing really ticked me off a few years ago, and actually I didn't even plan to look at a new Chevy as a result.
SO, I was set on the Ford Fiesta. We went and test drove one (my wife and I) and we were fairly impressed with it. It handled and drove nice, and the 6 speed auto was nice. I thought oh Ford, good American car company... then I see the window sticker "vehicle assembled in Mexico." WTF WHY?
OK, so we thought about the Cruze, but I know that isn't made here and because of that I want nothing to do with it. I know its still a nice car, but damn it, we need to support ourselves in this country as much was we can. I know some of the Sonic parts are sourced in other countries, but at least it is assembled here. And while I'm not a big union guy, I'm glad to support fellow workers in this country. Sorry if this post is a bit off the wall... just how I feel.
So test drove the Sonic, and loved it. MUCH nicer than the Fiesta in my opinion. Very well built car, made here, and I'm proud to own it. It is my wife's daily driver and she does 50 miles of commuting a day... Didn't even think about foreign cars, even if they're made here. I'm not old, but I'm old school that way.
SO, I was set on the Ford Fiesta. We went and test drove one (my wife and I) and we were fairly impressed with it. It handled and drove nice, and the 6 speed auto was nice. I thought oh Ford, good American car company... then I see the window sticker "vehicle assembled in Mexico." WTF WHY?
OK, so we thought about the Cruze, but I know that isn't made here and because of that I want nothing to do with it. I know its still a nice car, but damn it, we need to support ourselves in this country as much was we can. I know some of the Sonic parts are sourced in other countries, but at least it is assembled here. And while I'm not a big union guy, I'm glad to support fellow workers in this country. Sorry if this post is a bit off the wall... just how I feel.
So test drove the Sonic, and loved it. MUCH nicer than the Fiesta in my opinion. Very well built car, made here, and I'm proud to own it. It is my wife's daily driver and she does 50 miles of commuting a day... Didn't even think about foreign cars, even if they're made here. I'm not old, but I'm old school that way.
robd53
New member
BTW I'm 6' tall and I fit perfect in this car, can't believe how much room there is actually. I say its your decision, but Chevy really hit the nail on the head with this car.
Oh yeah, and the trunk in the sedan is huge!
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I've also owned a 96 Sunfire GT that my wife drove until 228,000 miles (2.4 liter 5 speed) and the clutch lasted til 196,000 (YES, for real). We sold that car and it is still driving around here. I had a 2002 Pontiac Sunfire 2.2OHV with the 5 speed manual and I loved that car, it was base as they come, but it got good gas mileage and always started for me even on the coldest of days. I bought it with 50k on it, sold it with 80k or so on it. Had it two years, not one problem. I owned a 2000 Grand Prix GTP that was a fun car... bought with 128k miles, sold with 142k miles no problems. I also owned 5 different Grand Ams (one of which was a 2.4 / 5 speed) and all were good cars. I'm only 28, and I love cars... My GM's have been good to me.
That being said, I see a lot of BTF (busted to...) blazers and jimmys cruising around. You know, the 4.3 v6 with rotted off exhaust is most common. But when people complain about them, all you have to do is look at the cosmetic condition of their vehicle and you can tell they don't give a sh*t. Whoever said it before is right, you can't buy a crappy new car. No matter what you get, it'll be nice if you treat it nice. Good luck with your purchase decision, and sorry for writing a book (or two) here.
Oh yeah, and the trunk in the sedan is huge!
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I've also owned a 96 Sunfire GT that my wife drove until 228,000 miles (2.4 liter 5 speed) and the clutch lasted til 196,000 (YES, for real). We sold that car and it is still driving around here. I had a 2002 Pontiac Sunfire 2.2OHV with the 5 speed manual and I loved that car, it was base as they come, but it got good gas mileage and always started for me even on the coldest of days. I bought it with 50k on it, sold it with 80k or so on it. Had it two years, not one problem. I owned a 2000 Grand Prix GTP that was a fun car... bought with 128k miles, sold with 142k miles no problems. I also owned 5 different Grand Ams (one of which was a 2.4 / 5 speed) and all were good cars. I'm only 28, and I love cars... My GM's have been good to me.
That being said, I see a lot of BTF (busted to...) blazers and jimmys cruising around. You know, the 4.3 v6 with rotted off exhaust is most common. But when people complain about them, all you have to do is look at the cosmetic condition of their vehicle and you can tell they don't give a sh*t. Whoever said it before is right, you can't buy a crappy new car. No matter what you get, it'll be nice if you treat it nice. Good luck with your purchase decision, and sorry for writing a book (or two) here.
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Papasonic
Active member
Either would serve you well. Honda has an earned reputation for durability, reliability, and resale. Chevrolet finally has got seriously interested in making quality, high content small cars, such as the Sonic. I also appreciate the fact that the Sonic is "Made in USA".
I looked at all the cars in this segment, and Chose the Sonic; Not just one, but we purchased two, one for her, and one for me. I have the utmost confidence in the design, engineering, and future reliability of these GM manufactured vehicles.
Papasonic
I looked at all the cars in this segment, and Chose the Sonic; Not just one, but we purchased two, one for her, and one for me. I have the utmost confidence in the design, engineering, and future reliability of these GM manufactured vehicles.
Papasonic
SereneDroid
New member
Alright guys, I'm really grateful for all the advice and background knowledge. One thing I will say about the Sonic is the community is growing and dedicated. I put a similar post up on a few Honda forums and it pretty much disappeared.
So I guess I should have been a been a bit more specific about what I'm looking for but a good Bourbon train-wrecks my thought process more than I care to admit.
For the Sonic, I'm a fan of the Hatch 2LT. I like the 1.8 as much as the 1.4Turbo, but I've never been a huge fan of turbos. That might be due to me not being a car-lover/Freakazoid ($5 if you can sing the theme song). If I had the salary and a reasonable daily commute, I'd buy a Nissan Leaf as I love that little car and the possibilities it stands for.
As for now, I've started communications with several Chevy and Honda dealers seeking the best deal for each respective model.
As for the Sonic, a Crystal Red 2Lt w/Connectivity, Fogs and Wheels that I test drove came in at 17.7k plus tag/tax/title and a $99 dealer fee. So a thousand below MSRP, which is great, but they indicated before running my credit they would not be able to make a deal without a co-signer.
As for the Fit, I'm looking at the Stock Sport Automatic. My current job involves a lot of short hops across town and I eat my lunch on the road to avoid having to clock out. I know I can drive a stick, but I'd rather have the convenience of an auto with the occasional fun of manual shifting when I wanna screw around (same goes for the Sonic's manual mode). So far I've had one price sent back at 18.15k plus tag/title/tax and a ridiculous dealer fee of $699. Its a bit less than msrp, but that dealer fee is whack.
I love the Sonic because I see that it is built for my generation or people who think like my generation. They are the ones who go to a dealer knowing more about a car than the sales manager, due in part to intensive research. I love that it essentially secures American jobs, something that I respect as an under-employed person. I am a bit unsure of the future resale value as the Sonic has no track record to research but I feel somewhat confident Chevy is dedicated to this car more than the Cobalt. I'm just fearful of ever owing more than a car is worth. I know my dad owns a 02 Frontier that at one point early on he owed 13k on and it could only be sold outright for about 6.5k
However, as it come down to it, I think that the dealer & financier that is willing to take a risk on a part-time employed Master's student, who applies to about 5 Civil Engineer's positions a week, without the need for a co-signer, is the one that "wins" me over.
Family comes first to me and even though my mom has agreed to co-sign for me like she did for my sister and brother when they were in college, I fear that it could adversely affect her ability to buy a new car in a year or so when she seeks to buy a new car to replace her aging Camry. And I refuse to hurt or affect her in such a way after everything she has been through. If I really must, I'll drive my truck until it goes down in a blaze of fiery glory, Again (...sigh lol). Though that moment seems to be about 4 weeks away.
Honda has a College graduate program which i pre-qualify for in every way except its monthly income ( seeks $1600, currently average $1200 part time). I have no expenses outside of car insurance and gas costs so that might help me if I go talk to them in person. And its not that my credit is too terrible - I have a 770avg across the three bureaus with a current 1K CC balance of truck repairs/xmas presents that'll be auto-paid at the end of the month after about a three-month carry. For 23 yrs old with a <3yr old history, I'm slightly proud of my score. What'll kill me at the financial table is an acceptable student loan debt ( 25% below national avg) and an income below what I could be earning as a entry-lvl CE.
I love the Sonic. I love the Fit. Each has its advantages and disadvantages. In the end, I believe I'll be happy either way. I guess its encouraging to hear positive stories about Chevy after a life of more problems than I realized. Earlier today, mom reminded me of the - 89 Caprice - Failed AC and transmission. 87 Astro - Failed AC (twice) and transmission. 92 S-10 - Failed AC. 95 Blazer - Failed Transmission.
As for the one who suggested a good used car, you're suggestion is a lot like my brother. He suggested it but I'm more than a bit burnt by the used market. My Ranger was 4 yrs old when we bought it at 66k for $5k. About 2000 miles in, I knew the 2nd gear had a problem but it wasn't until 10k miles that I convinced my father to let me take it in (Title was in his name) and I paid to have it fixed. In that time frame, the hood paint began to peel. Turns out the seller ( a small time dealer) acid washed the car to give it a new car shine. But he didn't give it a bath in a proper solvent and the paint began to crack and peel in select spots. Then a few years ago the dash burst into flames from an electrical short inflamed by flammable dash polish. In putting it out, I temporarily lost half an eyebrow. fun fun.
I guess we'll see what happens.
And sorry for going a bit essay writer-spastic. I'm crazy shy in person but when I post online, typing away my thoughts seems almost therapeutic and organizational.
So I guess I should have been a been a bit more specific about what I'm looking for but a good Bourbon train-wrecks my thought process more than I care to admit.
For the Sonic, I'm a fan of the Hatch 2LT. I like the 1.8 as much as the 1.4Turbo, but I've never been a huge fan of turbos. That might be due to me not being a car-lover/Freakazoid ($5 if you can sing the theme song). If I had the salary and a reasonable daily commute, I'd buy a Nissan Leaf as I love that little car and the possibilities it stands for.
As for now, I've started communications with several Chevy and Honda dealers seeking the best deal for each respective model.
As for the Sonic, a Crystal Red 2Lt w/Connectivity, Fogs and Wheels that I test drove came in at 17.7k plus tag/tax/title and a $99 dealer fee. So a thousand below MSRP, which is great, but they indicated before running my credit they would not be able to make a deal without a co-signer.
As for the Fit, I'm looking at the Stock Sport Automatic. My current job involves a lot of short hops across town and I eat my lunch on the road to avoid having to clock out. I know I can drive a stick, but I'd rather have the convenience of an auto with the occasional fun of manual shifting when I wanna screw around (same goes for the Sonic's manual mode). So far I've had one price sent back at 18.15k plus tag/title/tax and a ridiculous dealer fee of $699. Its a bit less than msrp, but that dealer fee is whack.
I love the Sonic because I see that it is built for my generation or people who think like my generation. They are the ones who go to a dealer knowing more about a car than the sales manager, due in part to intensive research. I love that it essentially secures American jobs, something that I respect as an under-employed person. I am a bit unsure of the future resale value as the Sonic has no track record to research but I feel somewhat confident Chevy is dedicated to this car more than the Cobalt. I'm just fearful of ever owing more than a car is worth. I know my dad owns a 02 Frontier that at one point early on he owed 13k on and it could only be sold outright for about 6.5k
However, as it come down to it, I think that the dealer & financier that is willing to take a risk on a part-time employed Master's student, who applies to about 5 Civil Engineer's positions a week, without the need for a co-signer, is the one that "wins" me over.
Family comes first to me and even though my mom has agreed to co-sign for me like she did for my sister and brother when they were in college, I fear that it could adversely affect her ability to buy a new car in a year or so when she seeks to buy a new car to replace her aging Camry. And I refuse to hurt or affect her in such a way after everything she has been through. If I really must, I'll drive my truck until it goes down in a blaze of fiery glory, Again (...sigh lol). Though that moment seems to be about 4 weeks away.
Honda has a College graduate program which i pre-qualify for in every way except its monthly income ( seeks $1600, currently average $1200 part time). I have no expenses outside of car insurance and gas costs so that might help me if I go talk to them in person. And its not that my credit is too terrible - I have a 770avg across the three bureaus with a current 1K CC balance of truck repairs/xmas presents that'll be auto-paid at the end of the month after about a three-month carry. For 23 yrs old with a <3yr old history, I'm slightly proud of my score. What'll kill me at the financial table is an acceptable student loan debt ( 25% below national avg) and an income below what I could be earning as a entry-lvl CE.
I love the Sonic. I love the Fit. Each has its advantages and disadvantages. In the end, I believe I'll be happy either way. I guess its encouraging to hear positive stories about Chevy after a life of more problems than I realized. Earlier today, mom reminded me of the - 89 Caprice - Failed AC and transmission. 87 Astro - Failed AC (twice) and transmission. 92 S-10 - Failed AC. 95 Blazer - Failed Transmission.
As for the one who suggested a good used car, you're suggestion is a lot like my brother. He suggested it but I'm more than a bit burnt by the used market. My Ranger was 4 yrs old when we bought it at 66k for $5k. About 2000 miles in, I knew the 2nd gear had a problem but it wasn't until 10k miles that I convinced my father to let me take it in (Title was in his name) and I paid to have it fixed. In that time frame, the hood paint began to peel. Turns out the seller ( a small time dealer) acid washed the car to give it a new car shine. But he didn't give it a bath in a proper solvent and the paint began to crack and peel in select spots. Then a few years ago the dash burst into flames from an electrical short inflamed by flammable dash polish. In putting it out, I temporarily lost half an eyebrow. fun fun.
I guess we'll see what happens.
And sorry for going a bit essay writer-spastic. I'm crazy shy in person but when I post online, typing away my thoughts seems almost therapeutic and organizational.
Danny5
Its over 39000!
If there is one truth on this planet, you can't go to a group of car "x" owners and ask them what they think of car "y". There won't be an unbiased opinion.
I can tell you why I did not buy a Honda. Honda, much like Toyota, do not build fun cars. They build reliable, safe transportation. There was a time when they once did have some fun cars, but they realized that by catering to the masses, and build a well rounded safe car, they could sell millions.
This cookie cutter model never worked for me. I lifted an Isuzu Rodeo instead of a jeep. I bought a Subaru RS when people were buying GSRs or Eclipses. I bought a Camaro instead of a Mustang. I spent dozens of hours behind the wheel of a 2000lb 100hp Miata, honing every possible edge I could get, while guys with 3 or 4 times the power would fly by in every straight.
What I see in the Sonic is a car that isn't part of the mold. It's got edge, styling, and a strong bite. This is a car targetted at a younger, more alive crowd.
I say, let Honda have their mindless masses, and we can laugh everytime we pass one on the road.
I can tell you why I did not buy a Honda. Honda, much like Toyota, do not build fun cars. They build reliable, safe transportation. There was a time when they once did have some fun cars, but they realized that by catering to the masses, and build a well rounded safe car, they could sell millions.
This cookie cutter model never worked for me. I lifted an Isuzu Rodeo instead of a jeep. I bought a Subaru RS when people were buying GSRs or Eclipses. I bought a Camaro instead of a Mustang. I spent dozens of hours behind the wheel of a 2000lb 100hp Miata, honing every possible edge I could get, while guys with 3 or 4 times the power would fly by in every straight.
What I see in the Sonic is a car that isn't part of the mold. It's got edge, styling, and a strong bite. This is a car targetted at a younger, more alive crowd.
I say, let Honda have their mindless masses, and we can laugh everytime we pass one on the road.