Official: Ordered Chevy Sonic Crew
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laborsmith
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4B00!
The car has to get to 4B00 before it can get to you, but the mysteries of the shuffle will never be solved. I believe it only takes a dispatcher computer check to trigger it, so its not unusual to get several. You also get it when loaded on a rail car, when the rail car is stopped at a yard waiting for a different locomotive, when it comes off the rail car, when it goes out for stripes (not a Sonic concern so far, when it comes back, etc. etc. etc.
A true one code fits all as well as a sometimes most frustrating code.
But as I said, a necessary code because until it appears there is no chance of a 6000. (Vehicle delivered to retail customer.)
Laborsmith
The car has to get to 4B00 before it can get to you, but the mysteries of the shuffle will never be solved. I believe it only takes a dispatcher computer check to trigger it, so its not unusual to get several. You also get it when loaded on a rail car, when the rail car is stopped at a yard waiting for a different locomotive, when it comes off the rail car, when it goes out for stripes (not a Sonic concern so far, when it comes back, etc. etc. etc.
A true one code fits all as well as a sometimes most frustrating code.
But as I said, a necessary code because until it appears there is no chance of a 6000. (Vehicle delivered to retail customer.)
Laborsmith
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hdghog
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I'm in Maryland -- no idea how it'll be getting here. Is there some way to figure that out?
I'm definitely new to the ordering thing. Are there any codes between here and delivery that might just get "skipped?" Is it possible that my 2nd and/or 3rd 4B00 updates mean it's actually on its way, or will I definitely be seeing a "shipped" status change before it actually departs?
laborsmith
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4000 Vehicle Available to Ship
4104 Bailment Invoice Created
4B00 Bayed ("B", not 8)
4106 Bailment Released
4150 Vehicle Invoiced (Dealer Billed)
4200 Vehicle Shipped
4300 Intermediate Delivery
4V03 Estimated Delivery Date
4800 Rail Ramp Unload
5000 Vehicle Delivered to Dealer
6000 Vehicle Delivered to Customer
Also, there are ways to contact the rail or truck shippers, which I believe are outlined on GMConnectsDOTcom.
And, your dealer can also track if they are so inclined. Some may not be aware that they can (I kid you not) and may need to be encouraged. If your dealer moves a lot of Corvettes or Camaros they will know, probably because more such cars are customer orders then all the rest of the Chevy car lineup put together.
Don't let the position of 4B00 fool you, you can bounce back to it for any reason and sometimes for no reason at all. I have not discovered anyone who has figured out the rule that governs it and I have truly tried.
I would say most Sonics will ship by rail. As far as I know the only Chevy that goes by truck exclusively is the Vette, and even that may go by rail to Alaska.
But getting to 4B00 is an excellent sign. Oh, and the other codes after 4B00 may not show at all until after the car is at the dealer, heck, there are cases when they haven't shown and the car is in the customers driveway. After the car is prepped and bayed communication depends on third party dispatchers, some who are good and some who while good do like to keep their secrets.
Laborsmith
4104 Bailment Invoice Created
4B00 Bayed ("B", not 8)
4106 Bailment Released
4150 Vehicle Invoiced (Dealer Billed)
4200 Vehicle Shipped
4300 Intermediate Delivery
4V03 Estimated Delivery Date
4800 Rail Ramp Unload
5000 Vehicle Delivered to Dealer
6000 Vehicle Delivered to Customer
Also, there are ways to contact the rail or truck shippers, which I believe are outlined on GMConnectsDOTcom.
And, your dealer can also track if they are so inclined. Some may not be aware that they can (I kid you not) and may need to be encouraged. If your dealer moves a lot of Corvettes or Camaros they will know, probably because more such cars are customer orders then all the rest of the Chevy car lineup put together.
Don't let the position of 4B00 fool you, you can bounce back to it for any reason and sometimes for no reason at all. I have not discovered anyone who has figured out the rule that governs it and I have truly tried.
I would say most Sonics will ship by rail. As far as I know the only Chevy that goes by truck exclusively is the Vette, and even that may go by rail to Alaska.
But getting to 4B00 is an excellent sign. Oh, and the other codes after 4B00 may not show at all until after the car is at the dealer, heck, there are cases when they haven't shown and the car is in the customers driveway. After the car is prepped and bayed communication depends on third party dispatchers, some who are good and some who while good do like to keep their secrets.
Laborsmith
order number pwwpqx
ltz
hatchback
turbo
6 speed manual
Black/titanium interior
All the "neat" electronic stuff. LOL
crystal red
sunroof.
ordered 24 sep 2011
updated to 3000 18 Oct 2011 (accepted by production control, parts ordered, production process started.)
check on 7 nov 2011 no update since 3000 status
ltz
hatchback
turbo
6 speed manual
Black/titanium interior
All the "neat" electronic stuff. LOL
crystal red
sunroof.
ordered 24 sep 2011
updated to 3000 18 Oct 2011 (accepted by production control, parts ordered, production process started.)
check on 7 nov 2011 no update since 3000 status
Wow, yours is moving kind of slow. It's usually about 10 working days between 3000 and 3100. Here is how my timeline flowed:
09/30/2011 (1100) Order placed at dealership. Order passed GM edit tables but dealer has not received allocation to place order.
09/30/2011 (2000) Order accepted by GM. Dealer used allocation to place order into production.
10/04/2011 (2500) Order preferenced. Order pulled to the production system.
10/05/2011 (3000) Order accepted by production control. Parts being ordered and production process is underway.
10/15/2011 (3100) Order available to sequence.
10/15/2011 (3100) Order available to sequence.
10/18/2011 (3300) Order scheduled for production. Order is scheduled into the plant build cycle.
10/19/2011 (3400) Order Broadcast (internal plant paperwork order produced). Order is sent to various build & supplier areas to bring order together.
11/03/2011 (3800) Order produced and vehicle is being prepared for shipping. For Cadillac, GMC and Buick customers, please contact your dealer or customer service for further updates as no further updates available at this time.
11/03/2011 (4000) Vehicle available to ship.
11/03/2011 (4150) Invoiced (order is invoiced to the dealer).
11/04/2011 (4B00) Your car is bayed and is waiting for transportation by truck, rail or transfer to vendor.
09/30/2011 (1100) Order placed at dealership. Order passed GM edit tables but dealer has not received allocation to place order.
09/30/2011 (2000) Order accepted by GM. Dealer used allocation to place order into production.
10/04/2011 (2500) Order preferenced. Order pulled to the production system.
10/05/2011 (3000) Order accepted by production control. Parts being ordered and production process is underway.
10/15/2011 (3100) Order available to sequence.
10/15/2011 (3100) Order available to sequence.
10/18/2011 (3300) Order scheduled for production. Order is scheduled into the plant build cycle.
10/19/2011 (3400) Order Broadcast (internal plant paperwork order produced). Order is sent to various build & supplier areas to bring order together.
11/03/2011 (3800) Order produced and vehicle is being prepared for shipping. For Cadillac, GMC and Buick customers, please contact your dealer or customer service for further updates as no further updates available at this time.
11/03/2011 (4000) Vehicle available to ship.
11/03/2011 (4150) Invoiced (order is invoiced to the dealer).
11/04/2011 (4B00) Your car is bayed and is waiting for transportation by truck, rail or transfer to vendor.
hdghog
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laborsmith
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Sonic: Yours is a 1LT if I remember correctly. Beaslbob, the turbo LTZ orders have been held up for engineering verification for months. Some early orders recently passed 3000 and are scheduled to be produced during the week of 11/14. Your fairly recent order may be queued for the end of November/beginning, if patterns hold true. I suspect you will go to 3100 tomorrow or Wednesday and then 3300/3400 a week later.
We will probably never know what caused the constraint. It may be the enine/trans needed government cert as some of opined, based on the idea that an LTZ is a different model than an LT. But I personally doubt it.
Laborsmith
We will probably never know what caused the constraint. It may be the enine/trans needed government cert as some of opined, based on the idea that an LTZ is a different model than an LT. But I personally doubt it.
Laborsmith
And if your prediction is wrong does that mean we should start reminising on corvairs again?
(The 100 years nbc tv news item had three corvairs. )
laborsmith
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I noticed that. I thought: "Three Corvairs! Yea!"
Someone asked me about the expense of the Corvair. I answered, "It's like a new car payment." After they left, I thought about my answer, and tho body, interior, engine and transaxle are original, by the time one adds up suspension and brake, electrical harnesses, etc. that really is true.
As to my prediction, it is based on years of ordering and waiting. In the seventies, I would order and not even the dealer would know beyond a possible particular month or perhaps the month following. Now, they can guess within a week fairly reliably, barring strikes and/or parts shortages. What has happened with the LTZ turbo is unusual but not unique. I had the same thing happen with the 2005 Cobalt SS/SC with the performance package. The order went in as soon as Chevy would accept an SS/SC order February 2005, jumped to 3000 fairly quickly, went into a holding pattern until assembled at the end of May. Meanwhile, the SS/SC's without the performance package option started appearing in the spring, I think around the middle of March. I have never discovered the hold up, just as I do not believe we will ever know why the LTZ turbo was held up while the LT turbo was being assembled.
Laborsmith
Someone asked me about the expense of the Corvair. I answered, "It's like a new car payment." After they left, I thought about my answer, and tho body, interior, engine and transaxle are original, by the time one adds up suspension and brake, electrical harnesses, etc. that really is true.
As to my prediction, it is based on years of ordering and waiting. In the seventies, I would order and not even the dealer would know beyond a possible particular month or perhaps the month following. Now, they can guess within a week fairly reliably, barring strikes and/or parts shortages. What has happened with the LTZ turbo is unusual but not unique. I had the same thing happen with the 2005 Cobalt SS/SC with the performance package. The order went in as soon as Chevy would accept an SS/SC order February 2005, jumped to 3000 fairly quickly, went into a holding pattern until assembled at the end of May. Meanwhile, the SS/SC's without the performance package option started appearing in the spring, I think around the middle of March. I have never discovered the hold up, just as I do not believe we will ever know why the LTZ turbo was held up while the LT turbo was being assembled.
Laborsmith
AxelRipper
Member
Guessing mine will be completed in the next day or 2 based on prior posts by people and the 2 day shutdown last week. I'm also hoping it will hit truck and dealer shortly thereafter considering the plant is closer to the dealer that I ordered from than where I work (by like 5 miles).
I might just swing by that way today to see if I can see the massive sea of Sonics.
I might just swing by that way today to see if I can see the massive sea of Sonics.
laborsmith
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Based on your 11/7/11 TPW, one of these four days (M-Th).
Only Bowling Green gives a specific day, and that is new this model year.
Laborsmith
Only Bowling Green gives a specific day, and that is new this model year.
Laborsmith
AxelRipper
Member
Got the email this morning. Hit 3800 yesterday! Now to wait for shipping.... Patiently....
RichieRocket
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Up to 4300
11/08/2011 - (4300) Interm transfer. Processing transfer to QC or vendor.
I hope that means it's getting closer...
11/08/2011 - (4300) Interm transfer. Processing transfer to QC or vendor.
I hope that means it's getting closer...
You are the first person I've seen on here post that status on your order. One of the guys here that knows more about what the different statuses can correct me if I'm wrong, but to me it appears that your car is being held up for some reason. They are either doing a random quality control check on it or something caught their eye.
The way it's worded, to me, that status can't have any good meaning at all.
The way it's worded, to me, that status can't have any good meaning at all.
laborsmith
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Could mean an extra quality control check which may hold up shipping but if I remember correctly is also used for rail shipping. I remember when the Camaro first came out dealers could not tell which but there seems to be communication improvements and the dealer may be able to find out.
Advantage of QC: everything is checked completely and fixed if needed.
Disadvantage: takes additional days and if something is wrong maybe weeks, but I have never heard of a QC'ed vehicle having qc type problems.
It occurs to me that production delays of turbo Sonics in the beginning and turbo LTZ Sonics for several weeks may have been the result of something discovered in the qc check, in which case we may eventually learn what the problem was.
Laborsmith
Advantage of QC: everything is checked completely and fixed if needed.
Disadvantage: takes additional days and if something is wrong maybe weeks, but I have never heard of a QC'ed vehicle having qc type problems.
It occurs to me that production delays of turbo Sonics in the beginning and turbo LTZ Sonics for several weeks may have been the result of something discovered in the qc check, in which case we may eventually learn what the problem was.
Laborsmith
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hdghog
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Woohoo! After three 4B00's over 9 days, it looks like my Sonic has (may have?) actually shipped.
I noticed the mention of 4300 above... Hopefully, since my 4300 showed up after the 4200, it really is an "interim transfer" along the shipping route, and not just indication of a QC hold-up.
I noticed the mention of 4300 above... Hopefully, since my 4300 showed up after the 4200, it really is an "interim transfer" along the shipping route, and not just indication of a QC hold-up.
10/26/2011 (4B00) Your car is bayed and is waiting for transportation by truck, rail or transfer to vendor.
10/29/2011 (4B00) Your car is bayed and is waiting for transportation by truck, rail or transfer to vendor.
11/04/2011 (4B00) Your car is bayed and is waiting for transportation by truck, rail or transfer to vendor.
11/06/2011 (4200) Shipped (vehicle is shipped to the dealer or interim point of delivery).
11/07/2011 (4B00) Your car is bayed and is waiting for transportation by truck, rail or transfer to vendor.
11/07/2011 (4300) Interm transfer. Processing transfer to QC or vendor.
10/29/2011 (4B00) Your car is bayed and is waiting for transportation by truck, rail or transfer to vendor.
11/04/2011 (4B00) Your car is bayed and is waiting for transportation by truck, rail or transfer to vendor.
11/06/2011 (4200) Shipped (vehicle is shipped to the dealer or interim point of delivery).
11/07/2011 (4B00) Your car is bayed and is waiting for transportation by truck, rail or transfer to vendor.
11/07/2011 (4300) Interm transfer. Processing transfer to QC or vendor.
laborsmith
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Hdghog: Looks like you are shipping by rail, so depending on far away you are you may get some more every time your rail car stops or is transferred from one rail line to another.
Laborsmith
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