Rumor: Chevy Sonic SS in the Works??
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SonicBoy24
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Thought this was kind of interesting. This article is saying the 2015 Sonic Dusk will make 190hp.
Is this the SS? Or is this just a bummer of a typo? lol
2015 Chevrolet Sonic Dusk, Sonic RS Sedan Bow: 2013 Los Angeles Auto Show | Edmunds.com
Is this the SS? Or is this just a bummer of a typo? lol
2015 Chevrolet Sonic Dusk, Sonic RS Sedan Bow: 2013 Los Angeles Auto Show | Edmunds.com
laborsmith
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I do not think it is a typo but more likely a miscomprehension on the part of the reporter. We do know Chevy has announced the new 1.6 direct injection turbocharged engine currently available in Europe (and easily capable of 190-200HP) will go into the Sonic when it comes to North America but has not been very specific as to when that will happen.
I suspect a Sonic concept car will have this engine either at the LA auto show or at the Detroit auto show, and if at the Detroit show there will likely be a more specific time frame announced.
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I suspect a Sonic concept car will have this engine either at the LA auto show or at the Detroit auto show, and if at the Detroit show there will likely be a more specific time frame announced.
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I heard this too. It would be exciting to have that engine. I can't recall where I read it but I faintly remember a 220hp range being mentioned. Is that the spec for europe? Or have you heard of that output. I remember the verano being mentioned in the article.
SonicBoy24
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Why are they messing around with a 1.6T and not just give us a 1.8T from the factory?
VW/Audi have been doing that motor for years with huge success, I've always thought GM needed to step up and compete with that.
VW/Audi have been doing that motor for years with huge success, I've always thought GM needed to step up and compete with that.
There are many things wrong with this post. That is all.
The 1.8 wasn't designed for a turbo application and plus it's an old platform. The Audi version of the 1.8 isn't like the 1.8 these cars have. If the power and driveability can be had with a smaller displacement, then more than likely better fuel economy will follow depending on other circumstances.
SonicBoy24
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What I'm saying is that they should build the 1.8 to be able to handle a turbo from the factory.
So turbojon, you can suck it.
My point being, if you're going to jump up .2 liters from 1.4 to 1.6, I think it would be more reasonable to go up to 1.8. Instead of three tiny engines, it just makes more sense to me to just turbo the 1.8 with some modifications.
So turbojon, you can suck it.
My point being, if you're going to jump up .2 liters from 1.4 to 1.6, I think it would be more reasonable to go up to 1.8. Instead of three tiny engines, it just makes more sense to me to just turbo the 1.8 with some modifications.
Didn't mean to upset you, dude. Sorry.
I just meant bringing up an engine that hasn't been in production for a while just because it happens to be a 1.8 was really random. Not to mention that the 1.8t, though decent in power and mpg, was/is far from the standard of great engines. It was a 150 or 180 hp motor. So, saying GM should "step up and compete" with it, is an odd statement.
GM has had a forced induction 2.0 since 2004 (LSJ) where it made an under-rated 205 hp and a ton more torque than the 1.8t, while retaining very decent reliability. Not to mention the LNF 2.0t which is more powerful than VW's 2.0t.
I just get frustrated with people talking about how GM needs to "step up" with whatever foreign company whether it be VW, Honda, Toyota, etc. And this is coming from someone who has owned almost every brand of vehicle and appreciates all of them. Right now I own a Dodge, a Chevy and a Mazda. I am by no means GM or Chevy-loyal.
But sure a 2.0 turbo (LTG!) in a Sonic would be a hoot. I would love to drive one. But, I personally wouldn't own one. I have had numerous other cars faster than my Sonic and could have just bought another SRT-4 if I wanted an overpowered FWD car. I wanted what most people wanted out of this car- excellent MPG's, safety and reliability while remaining entertaining to drive at a reasonable cost. The 1.4t certainly provides this and I can only assume the 1.6t would, as well. I am almost hoping GM doesn't put the 1.6t in a Sonic, just because I will want one but know I can't afford it. I love that GM, Ford and Dodge are making smaller turbo motors that have a great balance of power and gas mileage.
SonicBoy24
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I guess we can agree to disagree on VW's 1.8t. I have never been that impressed with the motor stock or tuned. Not to mention the people I know that have/had VW's couldn't/can't keep them out of the repair shop for long.
LOL at SRT-4's, I don't care. They are what they are and I know that. I loved mine that I had (both of them) and if you have ever driven one, you might understand. They might not be "absolutely amazing" like the 1.8t cars(?), but for the money there is not much out there that can do what that car can do. Mine mostly stock ran mid 13's, got 25 mpg city and I only did oil changes as maintenance. But I took care of them, unlike a lot of the SRT owners.
And GM does make a 2.0T (I mentioned it above...well someone beat me to that info). It makes 260ish+ hp/tq.
LOL at SRT-4's, I don't care. They are what they are and I know that. I loved mine that I had (both of them) and if you have ever driven one, you might understand. They might not be "absolutely amazing" like the 1.8t cars(?), but for the money there is not much out there that can do what that car can do. Mine mostly stock ran mid 13's, got 25 mpg city and I only did oil changes as maintenance. But I took care of them, unlike a lot of the SRT owners.
And GM does make a 2.0T (I mentioned it above...well someone beat me to that info). It makes 260ish+ hp/tq.
laborsmith
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I see this as confirmation: http://www.autonews.com/article/201...gh-performance-version-of-sonic#axzz2lf1NFm37
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Fingers crossed. What you think 2 year away?
davecerv
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opcorn: laborsmith
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I am thinking model year 2015, either available in Fall 2014 or in early Spring 2015. I am looking for the 1.6T Sonic to be introduced at the Detroit (NAIAS) Auto Show.
Mid model ywar seems more likely (for example Sonic Dusk and RS Sedan) as Chevy likes to bring performance versions on line in the middle of a model year.
I don't believe Reuss would be commenting about it just out of the blue.
Also, a 2.0T would be nice but the new measuring of emissions coming in 2016 is vehicle line specific and is based on vehicle size, wheel tread X wheel base so a sub-compact will be held to a more stringent standard than a compact. I suspect that epa reg will rule out the 2.0T thus the 1.6T.
Laborsmith
Mid model ywar seems more likely (for example Sonic Dusk and RS Sedan) as Chevy likes to bring performance versions on line in the middle of a model year.
I don't believe Reuss would be commenting about it just out of the blue.
Also, a 2.0T would be nice but the new measuring of emissions coming in 2016 is vehicle line specific and is based on vehicle size, wheel tread X wheel base so a sub-compact will be held to a more stringent standard than a compact. I suspect that epa reg will rule out the 2.0T thus the 1.6T.
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