The Derploader

[rdss]

That's an amazing plastidip job you did there Preload!!!

 

[Preloader]

Silicone fob condom.... Like $6 bucks on Amazon. The fact that it came in Kawi Green, sealed the deal. I have gotten the fob wet on numerous occasions, hopefully this will help. Obviously not against full submersion, but I have sprayed it a few times during car washes.

 

[River_Rat]

Silicone fob condom.... Like $6 bucks on Amazon. The fact that it came in Kawi Green, sealed the deal. I have gotten the fob wet on numerous occasions, hopefully this will help. Obviously not against full submersion, but I have sprayed it a few times during car washes.

I actually dropped my fob in the river this weekend. It was fully submerged for about 30 seconds. Pulled it out and hit the lock button twice. It still beeped the horn from about 100 yards away. Seems to be sealed pretty well.

 

[chivalryder]

All I saw in the last post was "silicon ... condom". I had to go back to figure out what you guys were talking about!

 

[rdss]

Silicone fob condom.... Like $6 bucks on Amazon. The fact that it came in Kawi Green, sealed the deal. I have gotten the fob wet on numerous occasions, hopefully this will help. Obviously not against full submersion, but I have sprayed it a few times during car washes.

It's all bout kawi-green!! It looks like it will do the job fine.

 

[firstorbit84]

Lol I had this as a poster in my room in high school

Will LSD stop torque steer though? I didn't think so? Isn't the MS3 infamous for torque steer and it comes with a LSD

 

[Preloader]

It may not stop it completely, but it has removed it at my current power levels. I recall the torque steer sensation when I got the initial Red Pill tune. And while it wasnt "dangerous", it was pretty intense. I haven't felt it once since I installed the LSD.

 

[Breezybro]

I actually dropped my fob in the river this weekend. It was fully submerged for about 30 seconds. Pulled it out and hit the lock button twice. It still beeped the horn from about 100 yards away. Seems to be sealed pretty well.

I just want to say I had my keys on me, off my belt loot with a carabiner, and I tipped our canoe into the middle of a lake. It was under water for at least 10 minutes if not longer, and I unlocked my car and drove away and works perfectly to this day. I wouldn't worry that much about it

 

[Preloader]

Sorry guys, not a whole lot to report on the GT2560. Dave has had some staff changes and is low on man power. It sounded like its just him doing 7-12s just trying to keep up with orders.

In the meantime, I have told TriVince that my relationship days with the stock turbo are numbered, and asked him for a "I don't care if I blow my turbo" tune.

Got it yesterday and tested it today.. Holy boost. I'm seeing and holding 23psi!! I can dance on the freeway like a Sportbike. I may be exaggerating a bit, but it's insane what a couple more pounds of boost feels like.

Also, the RS spoiler is arriving tomorrow, and I have a fun little suspension project in the works. If the parts come by Friday, I'll have something to reveal this weekend.

 

[$ub$onic]

Guess its time for me to put my app In at ddm works


What happen to ivy!?

 

[Preloader]

I'm sure the office staff is the same, but the shop sounds understaffed.

 

[Insanika]

Sorry guys, not a whole lot to report on the GT2560. Dave has had some staff changes and is low on man power. It sounded like its just him doing 7-12s just trying to keep up with orders.

In the meantime, I have told TriVince that my relationship days with the stock turbo are numbered, and asked him for a "I don't care if I blow my turbo" tune.

Got it yesterday and tested it today.. Holy boost. I'm seeing and holding 23psi!! I can dance on the freeway like a Sportbike. I may be exaggerating a bit, but it's insane what a couple more pounds of boost feels like.

Also, the RS spoiler is arriving tomorrow, and I have a fun little suspension project in the works. If the parts come by Friday, I'll have something to reveal this weekend.

Ok.. Tell me there's a difference between YOUR 23psi and mine. I care about MY turbo, lol. It's not hard for me to see 23.xx psi, in fact it's pretty regular. Even on my 87 gas. I think we talked about this..but I have to know the difference.

 

[sx sonic]

Ok.. Tell me there's a difference between YOUR 23psi and mine. I care about MY turbo, lol. It's not hard for me to see 23.xx psi, in fact it's pretty regular. Even on my 87 gas. I think we talked about this..but I have to know the difference.

He's holding 23 psi longer. Also since Pre is running E85 and all the mods he didn't need as much boost to reach target torque, I believe he was hitting his target tq with only 19 psi before.

 

[Insanika]

I figured there was going to be a lot more of everything with all of the mods, just wanted to make sure that was what was putting the turbo in danger.. Plus the hold.

I wish I had the balls to throw caution to the wind. I freak out a bit when I pull for too long at that high psi. I don't know how long mine holds (though I'm sure it's not like Preloader) because it goes on for long enough I start to get nervous and let it off.

Alas, I lack the funds and the know-how to fix it myself. Hell, I just the other day took my RPMs above 4k...

 

[Preloader]

23psi shouldn't be harmful to these turbos. Maybe a little background story will shed light on my previous comment.

After a series of logs and updates in which I asked Vince to maximize my power, I ended at a point where he said that I was maxed out on power on the turbo. However I was never seeing above 20psi with e85. So I basically suggested my lack of concern for the stock turbo to get him to push beyond what he was comfortable doing with my tune.

Maybe I was meeting his torque demand with 20psi. So by him raising the psi limit, the car is making power beyond what the ECU is requesting.... IDK. I'll have to log and let him sort it out.

Also remember, 23psi at sea level is more dense with air than higher elevations.

 

[$ub$onic]

I would highly doubt you would blow any turbo from over boost. More likely to blow it from the other supporting systems not working fast enough

But I have only worked in diesel turbo. Different animal

 

[Insanika]

Thanks for the clarity. I guess I'm a little surprised that I can cook 23 out of a can but you've had to beg for it, since your style of trendsetting is well-known.

 

[Preloader]

A better way to put it is it that Vince doesn't tune with psi. Psi is rather a secondary effect of what he is requesting from the engine.

I simply asked him to tune up my psi in disregard for what the ECU deemed necessary. Remember adding more psi also produces more exhaust, too much exhaust meeting the restrictive stock turbine could spell trouble (overspeed and higher EGT). This is why it's not always smart to just crank up PSI in search for power.

In other news, I ordered some bigger spacers and bought some camber shims for the rear. It is finally time to tuck & cluck. My lack of flush has been bothering me way too much.

 

[sx sonic]

A better way to put it is it that Vince doesn't tune with psi. Psi is rather a secondary effect of what he is requesting from the engine.

I simply asked him to tune up my psi in disregard for what the ECU deemed necessary. Remember adding more psi also produces more exhaust, too much exhaust meeting the restrictive stock turbine could spell trouble (overspeed and higher EGT). This is why it's not always smart to just crank up PSI in search for power.

In other news, I ordered some bigger spacers and bought some camber shims for the rear. It is finally time to tuck & cluck. My lack of flush has been bothering me way too much.

This is exactly what I was thinking when you said he cranked up the boost after you told him "to hell with the stock one". It's probably running very near or at overspeed in the upper revs.

Because of the dynamic nature of turbos they "can make more boost, making more exhaust which makes more boost, and still more exhaust and even more boost until the exhaust energy is diverted away, the turbo can flow no more air, the turbo over speeds and grenades, or the engine blows up."

A simple breakdown of why is because the compressor and turbine are connected thru a shaft. Obviously the compressor "compresses" the intake air to create boost. To make boost the turbine must spin to drive the compressor, it get it's energy to spin from exhaust flow and heat (~20%flow, 80%heat).

Now the boost psi is directly controlled by the wastegate. When the wastegate is closed all the exhaust must go thru the turbine and it will spin as fast as it can given the available energy and make as much boost as possible. As the RPMs, exhaust flow, and heat go up the turbine can spin so fast that the compressor becomes inefficient and starts to super heat the air, boost pressure can rise to dangerous levels, the turbo may reach areas of overspeed, and the massively increasing back pressure can result in excessive exhaust heat (EGT).

To keep the all these parameters in check the turbo uses a wastegate to bypass varying amounts of exhaust around the turbine; similarly to blowing on a small wind fan and then moving your mouth to the side, the fan will slow down. When the target boost PSI is met the wastegate will begin to open to maintain that target, as more energy is applied to the turbine the wastegate will open more and more.

By cranking up boost psi you are raising the turbine speed, It is inevitable. But a good tuner knows this and will do so while being mindful of the potential pitfalls and keep all the parameters to a safe level.

And just for our cars alone the variables that affect what is safe and isn't are altitude, temp, mods, power output, turbo efficiency, heat soak, etc. It's really really complex but hopefully this will make it atleast somewhat more understandable, might just make it more confusing haha. opcorn:

 

[Thaifight-R]

In other news, I ordered some bigger spacers and bought some camber shims for the rear. It is finally time to tuck & cluck. My lack of flush has been bothering me way too much.

May I ask where you're getting your camber shims from?
I'm probably going to need to buy some in the near future.

Thanks.