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CheapFuneral
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That thing looks sweet. Not a huge shotgun guy (yet) but it looks like it works like the old rifles.
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lousypirate
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No, it takes 2 3/4" as well.
Only thing to worry about is shooting steel with the full choke. But I have yet to see any confirmations about the barrel bulging at the choke. I thought about getting it cut for tubes since it is only good for home protection and shooting
Only thing to worry about is shooting steel with the full choke. But I have yet to see any confirmations about the barrel bulging at the choke. I thought about getting it cut for tubes since it is only good for home protection and shooting
ahtoxa
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My bike is getting over-bored at the Kawi dealer. Long story short, the dealer ordered all new cylinder, rings, etc., but Kawasaki decided to overbore.
This is actually good news, because that means I get:
- new ring design that doesn't suck by burning oil
- more pah!
There was a bit of a delay, since the dealer had to re-order parts to accommodate the bore-out (different rings, etc). I'm looking to get the bike back in 7-10 days.
This works out good, because we're having cold weather and/or rain for the next 7 days anyway.
The tech at this new dealer that I went to told me today that the guy that rebuilt this top end right before I bought it (2k miles ago) was a damned imbecile. Corners were cut, bolts were missing and other misc signs of crappy work.
When my current cylinder was measured, it was out of round (didn't write down the numbers that the guy gave me). Same thing with the rings - non-concentric ever so slightly, which is a known issue with the factory rings for a stock-sized cylinder.
All in all, sounds like my oil burning issues will be resolved in a week or so, I'll have the bike back in time for good weather, and I'll have a bit more oomph, since the cylinder is getting bored out. More power out of a KLR is always nice.
This is actually good news, because that means I get:
- new ring design that doesn't suck by burning oil
- more pah!
There was a bit of a delay, since the dealer had to re-order parts to accommodate the bore-out (different rings, etc). I'm looking to get the bike back in 7-10 days.
This works out good, because we're having cold weather and/or rain for the next 7 days anyway.
The tech at this new dealer that I went to told me today that the guy that rebuilt this top end right before I bought it (2k miles ago) was a damned imbecile. Corners were cut, bolts were missing and other misc signs of crappy work.
When my current cylinder was measured, it was out of round (didn't write down the numbers that the guy gave me). Same thing with the rings - non-concentric ever so slightly, which is a known issue with the factory rings for a stock-sized cylinder.
All in all, sounds like my oil burning issues will be resolved in a week or so, I'll have the bike back in time for good weather, and I'll have a bit more oomph, since the cylinder is getting bored out. More power out of a KLR is always nice.
ahtoxa
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Maybe it's the earlier version of the gun that took BP only shells. I forget, but it was made by another company before it was made by Winchester.
lousypirate
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You're thinking of the model 92 and older, based off the Spencer. 
CheapFuneral
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Awesome! Sounds like I rebuilt the top end! I finished my bike and I had all these left over bolts and missing bolts but the left overs didn't fit
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ahtoxa
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Awesome! Sounds like I rebuilt the top end! I finished my bike and I had all these left over bolts and missing bolts but the left overs didn't fit
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Perhaps, but you're likely not a professional moto tech, working for a dealership, where you're the "lead engine guy". That implies that you're more than just an oil jockey and should know your stuff. Not surprisingly, shortly after, the dealership owner said that this guy went to work for Harley.
Sounds like he wasn't happy working there, so he didn't care about the job he did. Or he's just lazy.
CheapFuneral
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Or they were gonna fire him because he sucked so he bounced to a new place
I've known others to do this.I'm not a Moto tech. Would love to be one, it's so much better than working on cars! I was a car tech years ago, not "lead engine tech" just general line but I figured out enough from my car experience to figure out motorcycles.
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ahtoxa
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Took the PPX out to the range today. I haven't shot it in a year.
Wow, I forgot how accurate I can be with this gun! And I even considered trading it recently - no way. This one is a keeper.
I can chew out the X ring without too much work at 7 yards (the Shield requires lots of hard work to do that) and the gun now has over 2500 rounds through it without a single failure. Never a jam or even a hiccup. I have even fed it steel and aluminum cases. Today, in fact, I shot some Federal aluminum case ammo that I found at walmart for under 10 bucks. Fed great and seemed pretty accurate.
Wow, I forgot how accurate I can be with this gun! And I even considered trading it recently - no way. This one is a keeper.
I can chew out the X ring without too much work at 7 yards (the Shield requires lots of hard work to do that) and the gun now has over 2500 rounds through it without a single failure. Never a jam or even a hiccup. I have even fed it steel and aluminum cases. Today, in fact, I shot some Federal aluminum case ammo that I found at walmart for under 10 bucks. Fed great and seemed pretty accurate.
CheapFuneral
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I was looking at getting a ppq or ppx
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ahtoxa
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PPQ looks better and while PPX's trigger is very, very, very good, the PPQ's is brilliant.
That said, the PPQ is quite a bit more expensive than the PPX. I would get the PPQ for carry and PPX for the range. The PPX is a very sizeable gun (bigger than the ppq), but that big size also makes it a good range gun (at least for me). The ergos work great, especially the weird hump in the backstrap - it is functional and if you have larger hands, it should work well.
Id be interested to trade me shield for the PPQ. I know the PPQ is larger than the shield, but I could see sacrificing a bit of size for a gun that shoots better in my hands.
Walther puts some of the nicest stock triggers in their current lineup of handguns.
CheapFuneral
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Kinda funny cause a lot of the newer walthers in the us are made by s&w.
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ahtoxa
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PPX is made in Ulm, Germany.Kinda funny cause a lot of the newer walthers in the us are made by s&w.
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CheapFuneral
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Those are both nice guns. Personally I prefer to carry a dao no safety, but but the 938 has crossed my mind.
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mitdr774
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In reality the SHield is not designed to be a highly accurate firearm. At the legal distances it can be used for defense it is far more than adequate. Even at 30' (about 9' past legal distance here) I can still keep a 20 shot group within a 4" circle.
If I am after accuracy I will take one of my 686s or 586 and target loads and keep 30 rounds within a 1.5" circle at 35-40'.
Normal carry guns are held to a rough standard for me. Can I keep a full magazine within a 5" circle at 25-30' with a minimal time spent aquiring the target? If yes then its good enough for me. I have a few that shoot a little high and a few that shoot a little low, but if held center mass on a person sized target they will all be within an area that would stop the vast majority of people within a hit or two.
The SP101 2.25" confuses me a bit though. As long as I take my time I shoot it very accurately. Almost as good as my 4" S&W revolvers. Given the crappy sights on the SP101 and my not so great eyesight, I am quite pleased with it.
If I am after accuracy I will take one of my 686s or 586 and target loads and keep 30 rounds within a 1.5" circle at 35-40'.
Normal carry guns are held to a rough standard for me. Can I keep a full magazine within a 5" circle at 25-30' with a minimal time spent aquiring the target? If yes then its good enough for me. I have a few that shoot a little high and a few that shoot a little low, but if held center mass on a person sized target they will all be within an area that would stop the vast majority of people within a hit or two.
The SP101 2.25" confuses me a bit though. As long as I take my time I shoot it very accurately. Almost as good as my 4" S&W revolvers. Given the crappy sights on the SP101 and my not so great eyesight, I am quite pleased with it.
mitdr774
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I also prefer the little to lot extra available in a 9mm. I do have 2 .380s that see occasional carry use though.
ahtoxa
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You are a better shot than I am with the Shield. I have come to realize that it feels too narrow for me. Not having a long enough grip to rest the pinky didn't seem to be the issue though, as shooting it with the extended mag didn't change my accuracy.
I'm going to try some Talon Grips or similar on it and see how I do. I'd like to thicken and improve the grip. Hikock45 (youtube) also has large hands like me, and he prefers talon grips on smaller handguns, so maybe there's some truth to that.
I might or might not try a pinky extender on the standard mag.
Not shooting the PPX for a year made me realize what a drastic difference in accuracy ergonomics cane make. I don't really think there's a mechanical accuracy issue with my Shield at all.
EDIT. If I decide that the Shield's issue for me is that it's too narrow even despite grip additions, I might start looking for a G26 to trade on.