laborsmith
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hdghog: well, did it come in today? Inquiring minds want to know.
Laborsmith
Laborsmith
Official: Ordered Chevy Sonic Crew
- Thread starter Sonic-Mike
- Start date
hdghog
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Unfortunately not. Still not delivered according to Cassens.
So, another day, another "I hope it comes in tomorrow."
RockTheShazbot
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Hit 3400 today with a TPW of 11/29 so I should have it by Christmas.
09/24/2011 (1100) Order placed at dealership. Order passed GM edit tables but dealer has not received allocation to place order.
09/24/2011 (1102) Order entered via web.
10/18/2011 (2000) Order accepted by GM. Dealer used allocation to place order into production.
10/18/2011 (2500) Order preferenced. Order pulled to the production system.
10/18/2011 (3000) Order accepted by production control. Parts being ordered and production process is underway.
11/12/2011 (3100) Order available to sequence.
11/12/2011 (3100) Order available to sequence.
11/12/2011 (3100) Order available to sequence.
11/12/2011 (3300) Order scheduled for production. Order is scheduled into the plant build cycle.
Gee I wonder where I rank in the plant build cycle.
But it is nice to have some update.
just got update to day and am now at 3400. So I guess I'm getting closer
laborsmith
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Beaslbob: Your salesperson can look up your tentative production period. Because of the recent rash of non-Monday tentative productions dates, I am wondering if Chevy is giving out the specific tentative date, so please let us know the date produced when you find out.
Laborsmith
Laborsmith
AxelRipper
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11/16/2011 (4000) Vehicle available to ship.
11/17/2011 (4150) Invoiced (order is invoiced to the dealer).
11/17/2011 (4B00) Your car is bayed and is waiting for transportation by truck, rail or transfer to vendor.
Yay!
11/17/2011 (4150) Invoiced (order is invoiced to the dealer).
11/17/2011 (4B00) Your car is bayed and is waiting for transportation by truck, rail or transfer to vendor.
Yay!
Ron2LTHB
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11/17/2011 (4000) Vehicle available to ship.
11/17/2011 (4150) Invoiced (order is invoiced to the dealer).
11/17/2011 (4B00) Your car is bayed and is waiting for transportation by truck, rail or transfer to vendor
I am with you AxelRipper ....
hdghog
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Well, it's at the dealer:
Though, according to Cassens, it didn't get there until about 9:30pm last night.
I'm kinda anticipating the dealer wanting to sit on it for a day to get it prepped and/or install accessories... So maybe I'll be taking delivery tomorrow?
11/16/2011 (5000) Vehicle has been delivered to dealer.
Though, according to Cassens, it didn't get there until about 9:30pm last night.
I'm kinda anticipating the dealer wanting to sit on it for a day to get it prepped and/or install accessories... So maybe I'll be taking delivery tomorrow?
AxelRipper
Member
Congrats hdghog!
Hoping the sitting mine was doing for the past 2 weeks is made up for by it going through the bays quickly. If it makes it to a truck today it will be at the dealer tonight and hopefully I can have it before thanksgiving. That would be something to be thankful for
Hoping the sitting mine was doing for the past 2 weeks is made up for by it going through the bays quickly. If it makes it to a truck today it will be at the dealer tonight and hopefully I can have it before thanksgiving. That would be something to be thankful for
AxelRipper
Member
Funny you should say that....
The dealer is 20 mins from the plant. I (at this immediate moment) am roughly 3-5 mins from the plant. If there was someplace to stop to take a picture of the sea of Sonics when I drive by it, I would.
laborsmith
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4150 (Invoiced) is the key. That starts the 30 day count down after which the dealer starts being charged for interest. Truck only deliveries may start that day and certainly within a few days. Train deliveries are more problematical and thus the two or three week delay. I suspect most Sonics go by train. I should know if there is a spur to the Orion Plant, but as I recall there is not, which means cars are trucked to the spur, loaded onto a rail car, and go through that train car shuffle before being unload so they can be trucked to the dealer.
The reason 4150 is key is dealers do not want to spend interest on a vehicle that can not be delivered to the retail customer. Once the vehicle is invoiced, they want it NOW. Its called floor planning and it also is why you are able to make your best deals on vehicles that have gone the longest sitting on the dealers lot. Of course, there is usually a reason the vehicle has sat there for so long.
Laborsmith
The reason 4150 is key is dealers do not want to spend interest on a vehicle that can not be delivered to the retail customer. Once the vehicle is invoiced, they want it NOW. Its called floor planning and it also is why you are able to make your best deals on vehicles that have gone the longest sitting on the dealers lot. Of course, there is usually a reason the vehicle has sat there for so long.
Laborsmith
The amount of time it is taking these cars to get delivered is ridiculous. I can understand the time needed to build a car. I can not and will never believe that they are shipping them in an efficient manner. I should have had my car last week, yet it is still 4B00.
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laborsmith
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Sonic: That has all the earmarks of a QC hold. Particularly because there shouldn't be any rail transportation involved which sometimes gets a lot of 4B00's. These holds are random and these days impact about 1 in 5 as they come down the line now that the line is moving at or near capacity.
As someone who experienced the vagaries of a QC hold, I have some insight into your feelings. But when you get your car, you should not have any "new car" issues such as unattached seats, misaligned trunks, etc. But that thought only becomes pleasant after you have your hands on your steering wheel.
Laborsmith
As someone who experienced the vagaries of a QC hold, I have some insight into your feelings. But when you get your car, you should not have any "new car" issues such as unattached seats, misaligned trunks, etc. But that thought only becomes pleasant after you have your hands on your steering wheel.
Laborsmith
hdghog
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Well, my fiancee and I head to the dealership in about an hour and a half to pick up our Sonic.
We saw a white one yesterday (albeit, a Sedan -- I'm still not a fan of some of the Sedan's styling element) and the front end, anyway, looks nice in white. Some (often poor quality/angle/lighting) pictures had caused a bit of trepidation about the color, but I think it looks great in person.
Anyway... Soon!
We saw a white one yesterday (albeit, a Sedan -- I'm still not a fan of some of the Sedan's styling element) and the front end, anyway, looks nice in white. Some (often poor quality/angle/lighting) pictures had caused a bit of trepidation about the color, but I think it looks great in person.
Anyway... Soon!
RichieRocket
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Laborsmith, the Orion plant does have it's own rail spur, see google map:
GM plant, Orion Township, Michigan - Google Maps
I'm getting really nervous now...my car is somewhere at a 'interim' point. If it wasn't for the 'orange debacle', I would have had my car a month ago!
11/01/2011 (3800) Order produced and vehicle is being prepared for shipping.
11/01/2011 (4000) Vehicle available to ship.
11/01/2011 (4150) Invoiced (order is invoiced to the dealer).
11/01/2011 (4B00) Your car is bayed and is waiting for transportation by truck, rail or transfer to vendor.
11/07/2011 (4B00) Your car is bayed and is waiting for transportation by truck, rail or transfer to vendor.
11/08/2011 (4200) Shipped (vehicle is shipped to the dealer or interim point of delivery).
11/08/2011 (4300) Interm transfer. Processing transfer to QC or vendor.
11/09/2011 (4B00) Your car is bayed and is waiting for transportation by truck, rail or transfer to vendor
Is there a northeast distribution center where they tranfer cars from train to truck?
My plan is to have T-day at my Mom's then leave on my roadtrip Friday morning. Some friends have a cottage rented on the SC seashore, a 14 hour drive I planned for Friday. Then on to FL on Sunday...
Of course, I don't have my car yet...I stopped at the dealer on Friday, the salesman said he could not find out any real info. The guy who handles the orders was out, but will be back Monday. Maybe he can tell me if they are expecting any deliveries before T-day.
laborsmith
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Slapping my forehead, of course there is a railhead; I've driven over that bridge many times as my sister used to live on Silverbell.
Here is a Camaro5 post with links that might help.
Railyard dist. center info; Please read!
When the cars finally start moving, most of them will move by rail. They will be transported to a railroad distribution center, where they will be offloaded and parked, and then be parked, awaiting over-the-road hauling.
These rail distribution centers are all over Canada and the U.S.
I've compiled the web addresses of the railroads and their distribution centers:
CSX Transportation (formerly Conrail):
Welcome to CSX.com - CSX
CPR (Canadian Pacific Railroad):
http://www8.cpr.ca/cms/English/Custo...ve/default.htm
UP (Union Pacific):
UP: Automotive Facilities
NS (Norfolk & Southern):
http://www.nscorp.com/nscportal/nsco...ve/Facilities/
BNSF Railway:
BNSF - Site Map
CNR (Canadian National Railway):
http://www.cn.ca/en/shipping-map-wor...e-autoport.htm
KCS (Kansas City Southern Railway):
http://www.kcsouthern.com/SiteCollec...system_map.pdf
A&S (Alton & Southern; switching railroad company in St. Louis)
Alton & Southern
When your car is finally loaded onto a train car (called AutoRack), a railcar number will be assigned. Your dealer can call the Dealer Business Center and get the actual railroad company and the railcar number. The DBC can also provide the railyard that will receive your car. Once you have those pieces of info, you will be able to track your car as it moves thru the country.
All of the railroads listed have a tracking system in place. An online one for customers and a phone-in one for everybody else. The phone numbers are in the links I provided. You can call them up, give them your railcar number, and they can tell you where your car is and what the ETA is.
Once the vehicle reaches the railyard, it will be unloaded and "bayed", awaiting over-the-road transport. The phone numbers to the distribution centers are in those links as well.
AND, the over-the-road haulers that serve the particular distribution center you're looking at are listed as well. You can take the name of the hauler listed, Google them, and come up with a phone number if you desire.
There is lots more interesting info in those links as well. I encourage you to check them out.
There is nothing illegal, immoral, or improper about any of this. This is all public knowledge and is listed on their websites. Don't let anyone tell you different.
And here's a nice little piece about how cars are shipped:
HowStuffWorks
Because it doesn't seem that anyone has gotten their Camaro yet, it would be interesting to see if any of the cars have made it to the distribution centers yet. I have to imagine that you'd have a better chance of seeing them the closer you get to the plant, as it hasn't been very long since they began production.
So if a distribution center is near you, drive by, take a look. These centers abutt public roads & streets, so there is nothing illegal about driving by & taking a look. I wouldn't drive onto their property however. They might get mad.
And it would be nice if a mod would sticky this. It has great tracking info that new owners will find very useful.
Laborsmith
Here is a Camaro5 post with links that might help.
Railyard dist. center info; Please read!
When the cars finally start moving, most of them will move by rail. They will be transported to a railroad distribution center, where they will be offloaded and parked, and then be parked, awaiting over-the-road hauling.
These rail distribution centers are all over Canada and the U.S.
I've compiled the web addresses of the railroads and their distribution centers:
CSX Transportation (formerly Conrail):
Welcome to CSX.com - CSX
CPR (Canadian Pacific Railroad):
http://www8.cpr.ca/cms/English/Custo...ve/default.htm
UP (Union Pacific):
UP: Automotive Facilities
NS (Norfolk & Southern):
http://www.nscorp.com/nscportal/nsco...ve/Facilities/
BNSF Railway:
BNSF - Site Map
CNR (Canadian National Railway):
http://www.cn.ca/en/shipping-map-wor...e-autoport.htm
KCS (Kansas City Southern Railway):
http://www.kcsouthern.com/SiteCollec...system_map.pdf
A&S (Alton & Southern; switching railroad company in St. Louis)
Alton & Southern
When your car is finally loaded onto a train car (called AutoRack), a railcar number will be assigned. Your dealer can call the Dealer Business Center and get the actual railroad company and the railcar number. The DBC can also provide the railyard that will receive your car. Once you have those pieces of info, you will be able to track your car as it moves thru the country.
All of the railroads listed have a tracking system in place. An online one for customers and a phone-in one for everybody else. The phone numbers are in the links I provided. You can call them up, give them your railcar number, and they can tell you where your car is and what the ETA is.
Once the vehicle reaches the railyard, it will be unloaded and "bayed", awaiting over-the-road transport. The phone numbers to the distribution centers are in those links as well.
AND, the over-the-road haulers that serve the particular distribution center you're looking at are listed as well. You can take the name of the hauler listed, Google them, and come up with a phone number if you desire.
There is lots more interesting info in those links as well. I encourage you to check them out.
There is nothing illegal, immoral, or improper about any of this. This is all public knowledge and is listed on their websites. Don't let anyone tell you different.
And here's a nice little piece about how cars are shipped:
HowStuffWorks
Because it doesn't seem that anyone has gotten their Camaro yet, it would be interesting to see if any of the cars have made it to the distribution centers yet. I have to imagine that you'd have a better chance of seeing them the closer you get to the plant, as it hasn't been very long since they began production.
So if a distribution center is near you, drive by, take a look. These centers abutt public roads & streets, so there is nothing illegal about driving by & taking a look. I wouldn't drive onto their property however. They might get mad.
And it would be nice if a mod would sticky this. It has great tracking info that new owners will find very useful.
Laborsmith
Yet another 4B00. I probably won't even have the car by Thanksgiving. This is the last time I ever order a car. I don't have the patience for this.
11/03/2011 (4150) Invoiced (order is invoiced to the dealer).
11/04/2011 (4B00) Your car is bayed and is waiting for transportation by truck, rail or transfer to vendor.
11/08/2011 (4B00) Your car is bayed and is waiting for transportation by truck, rail or transfer to vendor.
11/10/2011 (4B00) Your car is bayed and is waiting for transportation by truck, rail or transfer to vendor.
11/16/2011 (4B00) Your car is bayed and is waiting for transportation by truck, rail or transfer to vendor.
11/18/2011 (4B00) Your car is bayed and is waiting for transportation by truck, rail or transfer to vendor.
11/18/2011 (4B00) Your car is bayed and is waiting for transportation by truck, rail or transfer to vendor.
11/03/2011 (4150) Invoiced (order is invoiced to the dealer).
11/04/2011 (4B00) Your car is bayed and is waiting for transportation by truck, rail or transfer to vendor.
11/08/2011 (4B00) Your car is bayed and is waiting for transportation by truck, rail or transfer to vendor.
11/10/2011 (4B00) Your car is bayed and is waiting for transportation by truck, rail or transfer to vendor.
11/16/2011 (4B00) Your car is bayed and is waiting for transportation by truck, rail or transfer to vendor.
11/18/2011 (4B00) Your car is bayed and is waiting for transportation by truck, rail or transfer to vendor.
11/18/2011 (4B00) Your car is bayed and is waiting for transportation by truck, rail or transfer to vendor.
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LorbeerTLC
Member
18 November 2011: "HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!"
On 19 November 2011, I just received an e-mail telling me that yesterday, my New Sonic was "Born" at the Orion Township GM Plant, in Michigan, USA!
It is currently in 4B00 status and "is bayed and is waiting for transportation…"
Now the clock is ticking on whether I'll see it before Christmas…
I live in Washington State in the Seattle area and I know our rail depot for automobiles unloads in Kent, Washington (about 50-60 miles south of where I live), and then trucked up here.
On 19 November 2011, I just received an e-mail telling me that yesterday, my New Sonic was "Born" at the Orion Township GM Plant, in Michigan, USA! It is currently in 4B00 status and "is bayed and is waiting for transportation…"
Now the clock is ticking on whether I'll see it before Christmas…
I live in Washington State in the Seattle area and I know our rail depot for automobiles unloads in Kent, Washington (about 50-60 miles south of where I live), and then trucked up here.
laborsmith
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RichieRocket: Figure 10 to 14 days from when you get the 4200 when transporting by rail. That puts you awfully close to Thanksgiving Day.
On the West Coast, figure two to three weeks if the plant is east of the Mississippi.
How big is your dealer? The biggest dealers get two or three carriers every day and that will have a lot to do with how long from rail drop off to when it gets to the dealer.
Also, your dealer can contact the district sales manager to get a better idea of estimated delivery date. That is one of the functions of the district sales manager.
Looks like the Jessop, Maryland distribution center is closest to you.
Laborsmith
On the West Coast, figure two to three weeks if the plant is east of the Mississippi.
How big is your dealer? The biggest dealers get two or three carriers every day and that will have a lot to do with how long from rail drop off to when it gets to the dealer.
Also, your dealer can contact the district sales manager to get a better idea of estimated delivery date. That is one of the functions of the district sales manager.
Looks like the Jessop, Maryland distribution center is closest to you.
Laborsmith
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